[QUOTE]Originally posted by redleader
[B]BTW, does anyone know when the '01's first starting being sold in the U.S.?

 

I don't think that Honda would have much ground to stand on WRT voiding the warranty for AutoX. After all - didn't we all get SCCA signup forms included with the car? And autoX is pretty obviously the easiest on the car of any SCCA event.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Scot
[B]HOLY CRAP!

 

WOW...this really doesn't surprise me too much. I had a 00 red S2000 with that very annoying 2nd gear grind (complete disappointment for a car with such amazing reviews in all the car mags, still none of them have mentioned the problem, I smell cover-up). I waited almost 10 months before Honda released a service bulletin and by that time I sold the car. For what it's worth, I really loved the S2000...the look is original, you hardly ever see them on the road(because Honda won't make enough, plus it allows their dealers to scalp everyone who wants one) and the high revs are fun, but I think Honda is just pushing the little 4 banger too hard...asking for that many revolutions per minute is just too much and in the end something has to give, like gear synchros and cylinders. My recommendation to Honda (as if they're listening)is to use their new V6 (the one in the Acura TL type S)...the 3.2 litre puts out 260 HP, has much more torque and doesn't need to go to such ridiculous RPMs just to get under 6 seconds from 0-60. With the new Boxster, M Z3, Nissan Z and the TT...Honda had better wake up and give this car what it needs to compete or it'll come in last place in the 2001-2002 roadster track tests. Just my two cents. Please don't argue that a solid 6 would displace the weigh ratio, because I'm sure those extremely bright Honda engineers could figure that little problem out, lets say by moving the engine further back or increasing the size of the trunk, rear wheels and tires. But knowing Honda and how paranoid they are, they'll probably just pull the car after 2001 and call it a classic or anniversay car...kind of like they did with the awesome CRX, sad but true. They should have went with an Acura badge, then people would have expected better/V6 performance and annual upgrades that actually keeps pace with the competition.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by X S2000 Owner
[B]I think Honda is just pushing the little 4 banger too hard...asking for that many revolutions per minute is just too much and in the end something has to give, like gear synchros and cylinders.

 

Call it what you want, stacking tolerance or not, when I rev'd over 4K it grinded. The new TT I was refering to is simply the TT quatro and the Nissan Z roadster is in my opinion a 2 door convertible with roll bars (Nissan has said in their press release at the Detroit Auto Show, they will offer the new Z in a convertible) with a V6, 275 HP, for around 30K. Sure thing Honda called it an anniversary car (that's a no-brainer), because they can't produce it in high numbers with any production quality and it looks like they can't even do it with low assembly line goals, these flaws could easily blow the whole 9000RPMs/one of a kind ad campaign out of the water, Honda needs to seriously address these problems and fix them ASAP, at least for the sake of the 10 to 20 thousand owners world wide.

 

[ My recommendation to Honda (as if they're listening)is to use their new V6 (the one in the Acura TL type S)...the 3.2 litre puts out 260 HP, has much more torque and doesn't need to go to such ridiculous RPMs just to get under 6 seconds from 0-60. With the new Boxster, M Z3, Nissan Z and the TT...Honda had better wake up and give this car what it needs to compete or it'll come in last place in the 2001-2002 roadster track tests. Just my two cents. Please don't argue that a solid 6 would displace the weigh ratio, because I'm sure those extremely bright Honda engineers could figure that little problem out, lets say by moving the engine further back or increasing the size of the trunk, rear wheels and tires. But knowing Honda and how paranoid they are, they'll probably just pull the car after 2001 and call it a classic or anniversay car...kind of like they did with the awesome CRX, sad but true. They should have went with an Acura badge, then people would have expected better/V6 performance and annual upgrades that actually keeps pace with the competition. [/B][/QUOTE]

NONSENSE!!!!!

 

I agree 100%, 01s2. I almost replied to our fried X S2000 Owner, but then I thought...hmmmm, that would be a waste of time!

But I would like to say a couple of things...Honda is no stranger to high revving motors. The Type R and GSR Integras have a redline well into the 8K range and they have not had any problems related to that.

Secondly, anyone who puts the TT in the same class as the S2000 doesn't have a clue about either car. Not because one is better than the other, but because they are vastly different cars...In design, execution, concept...totally different types of cars.

Nah, it's not worth the energy to type...nevermind.

 

Maybe Honda did that on purpose so American Honda wouldn't want to extend the contract for another 2 years.
...wishful thinking...

 

My .2c on the #4 syndrome... Greg is right, there is a bit of panic setting in about this. To people that are getting paranoid and hearing noises in your car: THERE IS NO MISTAKING THIS SOUND. It's not faint... you will KNOW when you have it. y2ks2k's noise simply sounds like the clutch rattle that afflicts every s2k. AutoxEX's problem sounds very much like it could be the real deal. If so, this is the 4th, like Barry stated.

Again, 4 failures out of the 'circle' of owners on this board probably represents 20-30 failures nationwide for 'non-enthusiast' owners. Again, a very small 1% defect rate. Higher that we'd like to see, but as high-strung as this engine is, I can believe it. It seems that there was a very definite problem with some of these blocks' castings. Possibly an oil passage like Barry mentioned. Apparently #4 temp is the root of this problem, and since there is oil sprayed to the bottom of the piston to help cool it, it's very conceivable that this oil flow is blocked on some engines, causing #4 to overheat and score. Let's all hope that it's an isolated problem. With the engineering prowess of Honda, and with their reputation on the line, I'm sure this will be handled quickly, fairly and thoroughly.

AutoxEX... I feel your pain. I hope the repair goes well, and keep us posted. The worst part here is that you had to miss an autocross!

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by gregstevens
[B]No, seriously, it is wise not to jump the gun on this.