I'll have to agreed with Mr. C on this one. 2+ months between dynos is not indicative of reliably comparable results. A slight change in dyno calibration or keyboard input by the operator and you'll be looking at totally unrelatable numbers.
As the tech at Comptech said to my face once. "I can put in any calibration you like to give you whatever numbers you like. It won't make it realistic but it'll make you feel just great about your car and what you've done to it."

 

Dude... you're weird. You own an S2k. You make no sense in that you are basically making fun of yourself. Did you even make it to school when you were younger?

And another thing... maybe you should check the prices of the S2K now as compared to when it came out. From what I've noticed just from the 2005 model to the 2006 model, it's another $1000 more expensive.

Like I said... WEIRD!!!!

Just wondering something else... is it normal that you had the S2K somewhat modded it you only put down 198 whp? Doesn't the car in stock form put down like 200 whp?

Andre

 

Yes I can see where you are coming from and I'm not saying my numbers are rock solid indicators either. The operator was the same and the same ratio was used (when you dyno it saves all the information from the last dyno run you did). The operator that I go to is a very knowledgable guy who wouldn't change the ratio just to show more numbers or even by error. But yes, as I said, my numbers aren't rock solid either.

"Just wondering something else... is it normal that you had the S2K somewhat modded it you only put down 198 whp? Doesn't the car in stock form put down like 200 whp?"

depends on the car / dyno / day. All the results will be different, thats why its best to have other s2k dyno there so you can see if your numbers are accurate. We had another AP1 dyno at our dyno day and he also pulled 198 so the results are accurate for there anyway.


cmdr s:

I'm just trying to get my point across that taking out the cat is not the end of the world and it plays a VERY VERY VERY small part in "killing the environment." I'm also saying instead of complaining about us removing our cats, go over to a diesel engine forum and complain there...or a power plant forum...or a SUV forum...or just about anything else. I feel we should solve the big problems before we worry about miniscule things like a little 2L engine. I also don't live in LA so its hard to compare me to there.

 

But Spec, that IS "the big problem". It's always someone else that's the problem or that should be responsible for fixing the problem -- especially when it comes to the environment. Granted, all the S2Ks in the country running without a cat won't have much impact. But collectively, adding those to others with a similar mindset that "It ain't my problem" WILL have an effect. And it's your generation that are the ones that WILL begin to be affected more and more by this mindset. I guess my point is that we ALL need to take a share of the responsibility. And please keep in mind that I'm just as much of a 'car guy' as the next guy. I'm not the 'wet horse' at this party. I love my S, love driving it, but I am developing a sense of responsibility to the next generation that will have to live in the mess, if any, that I have left for them.

 

Nope.

 

Dude stfu...the only way you could stop all this. Is to curb all emission from Jet airplanes, cargo Ships, all major heavy machinerys, diesel trains, diesel truck...etc. I think we should just go back to ridding horse and wagon!! FYI: Commercial jetliner is one of biggest polluted...I worked for the airline, 747 jumbo jet takes 50k to 60k gallons of jet A fuel to go from San francisco to Sydney depending on the load for that day...Jet A fuel is almost basically diesel fuel..Very toxic and emits lots of emission to the atomsphere.
I wonder how much emission we emits when we fart or take a dump?? That's it we need to cut down on our food intake, we're destroying our environment.

 

For one, that chart doesn't show how much comes out of a catless s2k. Two, I pointed out that I had no proof of that sentence, was just getting a point across. Three, before anyone on here complains about humans putting carbon dioxide into the air, go research a little. Human pollution doesn't create global warming. Carbon dioxide and other gasses in the air create global warming. And do you know where almost ALL of these gasses come from? Nature. Humans have such a small part on global warming it is rediculous. You cannot stop global warming, it is a natural occurence. It will happen, then the Earth will cool back down, and it will happen again. Nature creates global warming with all the carbon dioxide it puts into the air. It is a cycle.

When the Arctic Ocean is frozen over, as it is today, it prevents evaporation of water that would otherwise escape to the atmosphere and then return as snow. When there is less snow to replenish the Arctic ice cap, the cap may start to shrink. As the ice cap melts, the earth warms, until the Arctic Ocean opens again. Once enough water is available by evaporation from the ocean into the atmosphere, snows can begin to replenish the ice cap. At that point, the Arctic ice begins to expand, the global temperature can then start to reverse, and the earth can start re-entry to a new ice age.

 

cmdr s is right with what he is saying though. It goes for everything in life. When everyone says, I don't make a difference, then there will be a huge difference made. Because if everyone thinks that way it all adds up. I'm not saying we shouldn't care about polution, but come one... a test pipe? How much polution does a cat even stop? S2k's get great gas mileage. Suv's and trucks are the hot item now. And they waste the most gas. Steve C's chart shows what stock cars emit with cats on. Doesn't factor in the fact that an Suv uses way more gas than the other smaller cars. Nor does it show what a catless car produces.

Wow this is way off topic lol

 

steve's graph doesn't show what a tahoe, expedition, escalade, etc. emit.

show me what a 18 wheeler emits, a dump truck, a dodge ram 1500.

a well maintained S2000 without a cat can pass emissions.


--about the ocean creating CO2....it is the ocean that EATS the CO2, open a chemistry book. light energy+H2O+CO2+photosynthesis= oxygen, (good) ozone, and sedimentary deposits into the ocean floor.

 

whhhaaaaaaaaaaaa your killing the environment whaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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