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Handling at the limits: low vs. high speed

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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 08:07 AM
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Default Handling at the limits: low vs. high speed

I've had my AP1 (stock 2003) for a month, and I've experienced both power oversteer and liftoff oversteer at <30mph speeds, and found it quite straightforward to correct.

Does it feel much different to experience and correct oversteer at 40-70mph speeds? I'm looking forward to autocrossing her in the spring, but I'm still trying to figure out how conservative I need to play it until I get a chance to push it in a controlled environment. There are ramps I would comfortably take at 60+ in my Jetta which I'm unsure about in the S.
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 08:12 AM
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I would find the limits at an autocross event over highway on ramp haha.
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 09:04 AM
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don't feel that you have to drive the S faster than the Jetta in the same situation, they are two different animals, one you know and one you don't.

Feel the feedback during every drive you take in the S at any speed. As you learn how the car acts your confidence and speed will increase.

Think less, drive more
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kevinS2OOO
I would find the limits at an autocross event over highway on ramp haha.
+100

Lots of "just wrecked" threads from guys who had the car less than a year. Don't add to the stigma.
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 10:04 AM
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I have never been able to induce oversteer on my MY02 S2000 since I've owned the car, it tends to understeer at the limits unless you are extremely rough with it and cause it to go off balance. The key to these cars is to brake and shift gears as you head towards the corner/curve, then accelerate through the apex and out of the curve. Slower in, faster out , don't brake or shift in mid-corner.

I don't think these cars should be oversteering heavily at such low speeds, that doesn't sound right. Check your alignment, and tire pressures. If you haven't had an alignment that would be the first step. Make sure your tires are in good condition. If you ever get a chance consider adding a CR front sway bar, I just added that to my 02 Ap1 and love the change, cheap /easy upgrade that could help out your setup.
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 07:08 PM
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riiiight. "i'll just practice driving on the street so i'm better on the autocross?"

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but the road, where the rest of us drive, is not the place to figure this out.

buy good 200 tread wear tires, get an alignment, and valve adjustment in preparation for the slalom season.

good luck and keep the shiny side up.

darcy
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 07:53 PM
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Tires will make most of a difference.. I went from fun oversteer problem to a nonexistent oversteer problem.. I miss it, but that's me.. Do you boo boo
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by electrokillz
Tires will make most of a difference.. I went from fun oversteer problem to a nonexistent oversteer problem.. I miss it, but that's me.. Do you boo boo

That is so true.
im with a very sticky rubber on my S2K and the car will under steer way before it oversteers,
im actually thinking about going with some lower grade rubber just to be able to have more low-speed fun

Mine is also an 03' stock
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ron1999
That is so true. im with a very sticky rubber on my S2K and the car will under steer way before it oversteers, im actually thinking about going with some lower grade rubber just to be able to have more low-speed fun Mine is also an 03' stock
You guys must drive like grandma lol. I'm running sticky 275s in the rear and 245s up front; I can't make the car understeer unless it's wet, but I can still hang the tail out without issue when asked. So it's not the car that's glued so much as you aren't provoking the chassis into oversteer. It's still there, I promise
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Old Dec 28, 2015 | 08:41 AM
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Everyone must have some significantly modified suspensions. If the suspension balance is close to stock, you should not be able to get the car to understeer first unless you're doing some boneheaded driving.
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