Help me decide
Finally I can have my ends meet and still buy a s2k.
I know the "improvements" s2k went thru from 00-01 to 02-03 and to 04+
I've been looking at some local sales and roughly this is what the avg prices are..
AP1
00-01 for around $18k
02-03 for around $23k
04 for around $26k
The price difference between 02-03 and 04 is roughly $3k which I think it's reasonable when counting the LED lights, 17" rims and interior upgrades here and there.. but between 00-01 and 02-03 there's about $5k difference..
Should I even consider 00-01? I thought about buying a 01 for around $18k and changing out the top and put in the speakers on the door trim like 02-03.. but worth it?
Help me decide please...
I know the "improvements" s2k went thru from 00-01 to 02-03 and to 04+
I've been looking at some local sales and roughly this is what the avg prices are..
AP1
00-01 for around $18k
02-03 for around $23k
04 for around $26k
The price difference between 02-03 and 04 is roughly $3k which I think it's reasonable when counting the LED lights, 17" rims and interior upgrades here and there.. but between 00-01 and 02-03 there's about $5k difference..
Should I even consider 00-01? I thought about buying a 01 for around $18k and changing out the top and put in the speakers on the door trim like 02-03.. but worth it?
Help me decide please...
I personally ignored the 00-01 models because Honda upgraded a lot of fixes (especially since the late VIN 02 models) which would keep me from being paranoid.
Also are you averaging out the dealer prices? Because those average seem a bit too high..
Also are you averaging out the dealer prices? Because those average seem a bit too high..
Originally Posted by iamhomin,Sep 17 2005, 09:07 AM
I personally ignored the 00-01 models because Honda upgraded a lot of fixes (especially since the late VIN 02 models) which would keep me from being paranoid.
Also are you averaging out the dealer prices? Because those average seem a bit too high..
Also are you averaging out the dealer prices? Because those average seem a bit too high..
No.. those are just avg asking prices on craigslist
Some dealers are charging close to $27k for 02 with 24k miles..
Dealers are insane.. Not going to consider them unless they start thinking about their prices and do something about it
I considered buying new since it'll be easier to make payments than to come up with the whole asking price, but I think used is better cuz I can VTEC that thing right away. LOL
Should I wait till raining season begins?
Originally Posted by iamhomin,Sep 17 2005, 12:07 PM
I personally ignored the 00-01 models because Honda upgraded a lot of fixes (especially since the late VIN 02 models) which would keep me from being paranoid.
... and let not mention how the car has gotten FATTER every year.....
^this is from a guy that owns a 2000 s2000? wtf? i see it as a matter of budget more than anything, the 04 definitely got a great drivetrain upgrade, but would you miss the extra 1000rpm?
personally when i get an s2000 i would love to have an 03 with 04 head/taillights, or just get one brand new with the F20C, although i really don't think i would miss 9000rpm that much, in my opinion S2000's are just so pretty i would take one in a color i didn't want, and the engine doesn't really matter because the F20C-F22C are so damn good either way.
personally when i get an s2000 i would love to have an 03 with 04 head/taillights, or just get one brand new with the F20C, although i really don't think i would miss 9000rpm that much, in my opinion S2000's are just so pretty i would take one in a color i didn't want, and the engine doesn't really matter because the F20C-F22C are so damn good either way.
I had a 2001 and loved it. the only thing was the plastick window which fogs up all the time in FL. Someone DUI rear-ended it. RIP.
Now, I have a 2003 and couldn't be happier. The glass is much nicer. Remember, to upgrade a 00-01 to glass you are talking about $900 +8 hours labor.
In mid-2002, Honda upgraded the bottom end to 4-hole oil jet bolts vs 2-holed ones. I don't know, but it SEEMS that there are not nearly as many blown engines with the 4-hole bolts vs. the early ones (I'm talking stock motors here).
The 04+ cars are nicer if you are a more relaxed driver. They have more torque everywhere. In reality, the two cars are about the same as far as speed goes. The F22C has 5-10 more peak HP, but the F20C has a longer powerband. They wash out IMO.
Now, I have a 2003 and couldn't be happier. The glass is much nicer. Remember, to upgrade a 00-01 to glass you are talking about $900 +8 hours labor.
In mid-2002, Honda upgraded the bottom end to 4-hole oil jet bolts vs 2-holed ones. I don't know, but it SEEMS that there are not nearly as many blown engines with the 4-hole bolts vs. the early ones (I'm talking stock motors here).
The 04+ cars are nicer if you are a more relaxed driver. They have more torque everywhere. In reality, the two cars are about the same as far as speed goes. The F22C has 5-10 more peak HP, but the F20C has a longer powerband. They wash out IMO.
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I've actually been thinking about the same thing.
Although it is not going to be anytime soon, I am leaning towards 02-03 for the purchase. Because people have been saying 00-01 are too raw and I do not like the plastic rear window. Also, I'd like to have 9k.
Although it is not going to be anytime soon, I am leaning towards 02-03 for the purchase. Because people have been saying 00-01 are too raw and I do not like the plastic rear window. Also, I'd like to have 9k.
Originally Posted by my_s2k,Sep 17 2005, 09:24 AM
Thanks for your reply..
No.. those are just avg asking prices on craigslist
Some dealers are charging close to $27k for 02 with 24k miles..
Dealers are insane.. Not going to consider them unless they start thinking about their prices and do something about it
I considered buying new since it'll be easier to make payments than to come up with the whole asking price, but I think used is better cuz I can VTEC that thing right away. LOL
Should I wait till raining season begins?
No.. those are just avg asking prices on craigslist
Some dealers are charging close to $27k for 02 with 24k miles..
Dealers are insane.. Not going to consider them unless they start thinking about their prices and do something about it
I considered buying new since it'll be easier to make payments than to come up with the whole asking price, but I think used is better cuz I can VTEC that thing right away. LOL
Should I wait till raining season begins?
Originally Posted by MulderATO,Sep 17 2005, 10:33 AM
I agree, the first years sucked.. I mean, come on... they are like first year Corvettes, 500 spyders, Honda s800s, and Jaguar E-types..... who would want those pieces of junk
... and let not mention how the car has gotten FATTER every year.....
... and let not mention how the car has gotten FATTER every year.....
The point is, there are more known issues with the earlier model.


