How can I fight these speeding tickets?
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From: Costa Mesa
Wow this is amazing! Isn't this the equivalent of a cop letting an armed robbery proceed to see if maybe the robber shoots somebody and then he can get him for attempted murder and armed robbery??? Assuming the premise of the speed laws is public safety, then this cop let a dangerous situation continue for several miles/minutes potentially endagering numerous people including you! I would consider several things including:
1. Filing a formal complaint with CHP (or whatever agency the cop works for) for harrassment, entrapment or whatever you can come up with
2. Post your story to a legal advice board (lawguru.com is one that I'm aware of) and see if you can get some help on how to proceed
3. Post a thread here asking for input from lawyer board members (LegalBill is the only one I'm aware of but I'm sure there's many more)
4. As others have already stated, the one thing you should certainly do is hire an attorney - I'm sure you can get one to work with you on payments and a reasonable fee. And although it may cost you $1k-2k, that will be far less expensive then insurance if you were to end up being guilty on all 4 charges.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
jd
1. Filing a formal complaint with CHP (or whatever agency the cop works for) for harrassment, entrapment or whatever you can come up with
2. Post your story to a legal advice board (lawguru.com is one that I'm aware of) and see if you can get some help on how to proceed
3. Post a thread here asking for input from lawyer board members (LegalBill is the only one I'm aware of but I'm sure there's many more)
4. As others have already stated, the one thing you should certainly do is hire an attorney - I'm sure you can get one to work with you on payments and a reasonable fee. And although it may cost you $1k-2k, that will be far less expensive then insurance if you were to end up being guilty on all 4 charges.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
jd
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From: Raleigh
Oh dear! 4 tickets on one day? That sucks ostrich eggs! Big ones too!
Thankfully, I'm yet to receive a ticket. I've been stopped a total of six times, once for speeding, bald tires, no license plate light (and I didn't have my registratration with me coz it had expired... I ALWAYS get away with it. I think my English accent confuses the hell out of these NC cops. Or maybe they feel sorry for me or something coz when I see their guns I can't help but start shaking like a leaf (genuine fear). I appologize perfusely and admit my mistakes (whilst shaking like a leaf)!
I'd get definately get a lawyer and show up to the court date. If yer lucky, you'll escape points and they'll reduce the speeds (that's what happened when my wife was caught doing 66 in a 45 zone). Good luck with the tickets!
Thankfully, I'm yet to receive a ticket. I've been stopped a total of six times, once for speeding, bald tires, no license plate light (and I didn't have my registratration with me coz it had expired... I ALWAYS get away with it. I think my English accent confuses the hell out of these NC cops. Or maybe they feel sorry for me or something coz when I see their guns I can't help but start shaking like a leaf (genuine fear). I appologize perfusely and admit my mistakes (whilst shaking like a leaf)!
I'd get definately get a lawyer and show up to the court date. If yer lucky, you'll escape points and they'll reduce the speeds (that's what happened when my wife was caught doing 66 in a 45 zone). Good luck with the tickets!
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From: Columbus
First, This isn't about me. I've only had one speeding ticket in my life. I deserved it. I paid it.
Second, my comments aren't really about the legality of what the cop did. Our young speeding friend will most likely get off.
....But he is clearly putting the general public at risk when he is doubling the posted speed limit. If he did all this in the course of 3 miles he must always be speeding. nzaizar, I'd put money on a 25mph zone being a neighborhood. You'll be the first person in line to hang this guy if he ever killed one of your loved ones because of his wreckless driving.
Second, my comments aren't really about the legality of what the cop did. Our young speeding friend will most likely get off.
....But he is clearly putting the general public at risk when he is doubling the posted speed limit. If he did all this in the course of 3 miles he must always be speeding. nzaizar, I'd put money on a 25mph zone being a neighborhood. You'll be the first person in line to hang this guy if he ever killed one of your loved ones because of his wreckless driving.
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From: Bay Area
well, maybe u can get out of a technicality: said that he acquired illegal evidence cuz he had to speed four times to catch up to u, and hence, he too set the same four violations u did!
well, seriously, four violations in one ticket is based on teh same violation. isn't that double jeapordy, but then again, its an infraction, not a crime.
i think u can get rid of the first two 22350s, arguing the basic speed law doesn't say that the posted speed limit is a legal one. 22350 basically says the legal speed limit is always 65, and that the posted speed limit is actually just a recommendation based on surveys. one way u can get out of them is that u can request a survey, and if its outdated (like the most recent survey is like more than 5 years ago), then u can wipe those away.
in addition to the survey, u can use cite 22350 and say that the speeds u were going were safe, b/c the cop put "clear, moderate" traffic, and u were not hurting anyone.
the second two, its gonna be hard, cuz the cop said u went past 65, so u can't use the argument i wrote above (only works for 65 and under). i would question how the cop detected ur speed at 80mph, and see if it is a speed trap, cuz there are laws against that in CA
imo, get a attorney like everyone else says. i had one violation 22350, and i fought it. but four is gonna be hard, unless what the cop was doing was illegal (double jeapordy or speed trap)
well, seriously, four violations in one ticket is based on teh same violation. isn't that double jeapordy, but then again, its an infraction, not a crime.
i think u can get rid of the first two 22350s, arguing the basic speed law doesn't say that the posted speed limit is a legal one. 22350 basically says the legal speed limit is always 65, and that the posted speed limit is actually just a recommendation based on surveys. one way u can get out of them is that u can request a survey, and if its outdated (like the most recent survey is like more than 5 years ago), then u can wipe those away.
in addition to the survey, u can use cite 22350 and say that the speeds u were going were safe, b/c the cop put "clear, moderate" traffic, and u were not hurting anyone.
the second two, its gonna be hard, cuz the cop said u went past 65, so u can't use the argument i wrote above (only works for 65 and under). i would question how the cop detected ur speed at 80mph, and see if it is a speed trap, cuz there are laws against that in CA
imo, get a attorney like everyone else says. i had one violation 22350, and i fought it. but four is gonna be hard, unless what the cop was doing was illegal (double jeapordy or speed trap)
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From: Raleigh
Ubetit, sorry m8, but that's a little self-righteous BS you got going there! Getting a speeding ticket can happen to anyone (unless you never, ever speed). I've been lucky enough not to get a ticket. Everybody exceeds the speed limit sometimes.
Regarding the "American Way" bollox, come on! Time to get down off yer soapbox b4 you hurt yourself! ...American way? LOL ...I'm not American, but I thought right to legal council is the core of the judicial system over here.
Regarding the "American Way" bollox, come on! Time to get down off yer soapbox b4 you hurt yourself! ...American way? LOL ...I'm not American, but I thought right to legal council is the core of the judicial system over here.