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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark355,Nov 15 2009, 11:36 AM
Clutch delay valve. Designed to slip the clutch if you try to pop it to save the diff.
Not true at all, but a common misconception by people that really don't understand how the CDV works with the transmission. The CDV regulates clutch engagement so its firm and deliberate, not so fast as to shock the driveline or so slow as to induce unnecessary slip on clutch engagements.

If you can't shift smoothly, you need to practice and stop watching F&F movies - don't blame transmission components for it. Anyone that's driven a number of manual cars knows, or should know, that all need to be driven differently - its part of the character of the car. As for notchy shifts, the syncros can only work so fast, and the S shifter is short so shifts are quick, even when you shift slowly. If you can't perfectly rev match, you might as well shift slower as the car isn't going to go into gear any faster.
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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I get 1st to 2nd shift grind every once in a while. Seems to be woese when it's cold. Smoothness is key.
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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The only time I have problems with 2nd and 3rd is when the car is cold. They will have a small grind for the first couple of shifts everytime unless I am deliberately extremely slow and careful. The rest of the time they shift just fine. I try to row through the gears a couple of times before starting out in the mornings to see if that helps.
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by trinis2001,Nov 15 2009, 02:15 PM
So much for smoothest, slickest gearbox on the market then?
Wrong conclusion. Fine tools are wasted on those that don't know how to use them.
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mister x,Nov 15 2009, 02:15 PM
Too many guys learn to shift from Hollywood movies.
Fixed that for you...
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 05:17 AM
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any transmission will grind eventually if it is continuously beat on. save your transmission (and your wallet). no need to shift like a madman; take another half a second to shift. i promise it won't kill your laptimes.
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 06:47 AM
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Frequent fluid changes also aid in the smoothness of the shifting. Also making sure that you pause in neutral for a split second.

I upgraded to an AP2 trans and now I can shift however I want and enjoy a grind free experience.
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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You have to use the clutch? I just slam that baby in and out
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 06:57 AM
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Mine only gives me a little trouble when its cold out after it warms up shifts are smooth, you're doing it wrong if your shifts aren't smooth learn to drive a manual
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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I think most people ought to wait until the shifting is smooth before they redline the engine. Seems like a good indicator that everything is sufficiently warm.

What's different about an AP1 tranny that makes it smoother?
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