GT_NFR

You could get wider tires for the ap1 and also make sure your tires have plenty of tread. It seems like most people spin out due to bad tires + inclement weather.

JP Money

You'll be fine if you keep the balance right. What I mean is things like letting off the throttle abruptly, shifting gears (up or down), turning too hard, etc all upset the beautiful balance in a corner. Being lowered helps too.

PeanutButter

Wrong


But yes, the ap1 spins around way easier than the ap2, i have owned both

jezzder

you clearly have not tried hard enough


any car will spin, even front wheel drive, if you 'try'.

i have been in a few situations where the back end lets go, but a little countersteer, some throttle feathering and its one of the nicest cars i've ever had the pleasure of sliding around a corner. and i am running 265/18s

it is VERY well behaved, even in full fishtail.

Rsxtype-s

what edition did you get? I spun mine 2 weeks after ownership. If you're fairly new to RWD, either model will spin. Like posted above, if you try hard enough, it will happen.

Blacknot

It was a joke but seriously i heard if you put AP2 tires on an AP1 it will fix the problem.

SoMe0nE2tAlK2

Ive almost spun my CR which is heavily dialed for understeer when compared to older models. Though it was on the track

Its all in how you drive it. You just gotta be a little more careful with the older ones when learning its limits.

mr_jil

Haven't had a spin yet. I was very wary of the issue when I first purchased a couple of months ago, so I'm taking it easy and building up my driving experience/skill with the S before i try anything.

Penforhire

The problem is not with ordinary aggressive driving. The problem is at the very limits of adhesion. The early AP1 had very difficult-to-recover oversteer if you took it beyond a certain point. As others noted, on the street this is common only in the rain or if you're right near peak power (8K+ RPM) in tight turns (and with some abrupt inputs).

I only ever looped my AP1 on racetracks, never on the street. But I did have some mild tail-out moments on the street. If you have no racing experience you WILL lift at those times and make it worse.

I have an AP2 now. My thoughts are, it is not as "pure" or "animal" as the AP1 but makes a better daily driver. That's the entire trade-off to me. If they only made AP1's I'd be driving a new AP1 rather than any other car I can afford.

getfighted32

I my death trap.