I refused S2000 from Dealer.
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From: New Milford
You did the right thing I got a new S2000 2002 with only 5 miles on it and it was delivered on a flat bed from another dealer dont give a dealer any thought get you get what u payed for so get the s2000 that u want not what the dealer is giving you its your money!!!!
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From: Northern California
yep, i bought my car out in Texas and had it shipped over to a dealer here in California. it went through TWO dealers and none of them drove it more than necessary. I received the car with 8 miles on it. The dealer in Texas received it with 6 miles. 95 is ridiculous.
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Originally posted by LQQK
I just returned from my Dealer and when I inquired about the miles the car had I looked for myself and there were 95 on it.
I asked how did they get on there, his reply they come in quite often with miles already on it, this dealer picked this car up from another dealer and trailered it in, I said I bet people were test driving this car and not following the manufacturers guidelines concerning rpms well he said I can vouch for the dealer but I said you cannot guarantee me that someone did not test this car for what it is, a sportscar/Hotrod and if I was given the opportunity for a test drive I would certainly not refrain from testing what it has.
I told them to keep the car and they refunded my deposit, so I guess I'll look elsewhere.
Thanks to the information discovered here I possibly saved myself headaches down the road at least I won't have doubts and concerns in my mind.
LQQK
I just returned from my Dealer and when I inquired about the miles the car had I looked for myself and there were 95 on it.
I asked how did they get on there, his reply they come in quite often with miles already on it, this dealer picked this car up from another dealer and trailered it in, I said I bet people were test driving this car and not following the manufacturers guidelines concerning rpms well he said I can vouch for the dealer but I said you cannot guarantee me that someone did not test this car for what it is, a sportscar/Hotrod and if I was given the opportunity for a test drive I would certainly not refrain from testing what it has.
I told them to keep the car and they refunded my deposit, so I guess I'll look elsewhere.
Thanks to the information discovered here I possibly saved myself headaches down the road at least I won't have doubts and concerns in my mind.
LQQK
i think you overreacted, if people are all like you, then no wonder they dont let people test drive the S2000. So how are potential buyers going to know how good the S feels before they buy? you saying a sportscar/hotrod <--- i think that might be an overstatement too
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From: Laurel
Well, no one can say whether you did the right thing but you -- it being your money.
That said, I think this is an example of how enthusiast anal retentitiveness kept someone out of an S.
There is no evidence of a higher incidence of problems in cars that are not anally broken in. Break in is not a long-term wear issue, it is merely about whether the rings seat well. The problem and evidence are immediate, not some long-term ticking time bomb. If you're rings don't seat it's pretty obvious pretty fast. Anyone heard of a rash -- or even half a dozen -- ring seating problems?
Break in used to be desireable for lots of engine parts. With modern machining methods, bearings, bushings and seals really don't benefit from break-in like in previous times. So it is highly unlikely that how you break in a car will make any difference.
That said, would I follow the break-in procedure? Yes. Would I turn down a car with 95 miles on it? No. Newish used (4-8,000 miles) is actually a great money retention strategy.
That said, I think this is an example of how enthusiast anal retentitiveness kept someone out of an S.
There is no evidence of a higher incidence of problems in cars that are not anally broken in. Break in is not a long-term wear issue, it is merely about whether the rings seat well. The problem and evidence are immediate, not some long-term ticking time bomb. If you're rings don't seat it's pretty obvious pretty fast. Anyone heard of a rash -- or even half a dozen -- ring seating problems?
Break in used to be desireable for lots of engine parts. With modern machining methods, bearings, bushings and seals really don't benefit from break-in like in previous times. So it is highly unlikely that how you break in a car will make any difference.
That said, would I follow the break-in procedure? Yes. Would I turn down a car with 95 miles on it? No. Newish used (4-8,000 miles) is actually a great money retention strategy.
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From: Culver City
You can rent an S for about $160.00 a day,test drives at dealers are not the only way to drive these cars.Seems to me a small price to pay for someone who's going to lay down 35 grand for a vehicle.
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From: Erock's my boat!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jschmidt
[B]Well, no one can say whether you did the right thing but you -- it being your money.
That said, I think this is an example of how enthusiast anal retentitiveness kept someone out of an S.
[B]Well, no one can say whether you did the right thing but you -- it being your money.
That said, I think this is an example of how enthusiast anal retentitiveness kept someone out of an S.
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From: Luxembourg
Hi,
Funny that they did not reset the odometer, here in Europe it's normal that dealers just reset the odometer before delivery. But for sure, that's in a sense even worse, because then you have no clue to what lies behind a cars pre delivery history.
But anywhere car dealers a the worst of the worst. I read a story about a car carrier which was sunken. Somebody had then payed for the ship to be raised, with a rule that the cargo would not be sold on. But anyway some of these cars (7 series BMW's), actually ended up by used car dealers in europe after being on the botom of the ocean. No wonder these cars, had a lot of electrical problems.
Funny that they did not reset the odometer, here in Europe it's normal that dealers just reset the odometer before delivery. But for sure, that's in a sense even worse, because then you have no clue to what lies behind a cars pre delivery history.
But anywhere car dealers a the worst of the worst. I read a story about a car carrier which was sunken. Somebody had then payed for the ship to be raised, with a rule that the cargo would not be sold on. But anyway some of these cars (7 series BMW's), actually ended up by used car dealers in europe after being on the botom of the ocean. No wonder these cars, had a lot of electrical problems.