I would guess 19K to 21K is a fair range for good condition ones ... ?

Anyway, good luck !

 

Even enlarged it for you, so you don't have to break out your bi/tri focals.

Such a moron. At least make your jokes funny. Go empty your enema bag so you don't get so crabby.

Oh, by the way:

My ITR


And S2000:


And CBR:

 

Your mom's house is situated on an off-ramp? Interesting choice. Nice pictures of your dad's S2000. I take it the front driver is yours. Nice and safe. You wouldn't want to risk a ride in a twitchy RWD car like your dad's until you learn to drive a beast like the S2000.

PS - You might want to do some maintenance on your parent's driveway. They've got some bad spawling and serious cracks. And, their mailbox appears to be doing an impression of the leaning tower of Pisa. Probably due to the wind rush from that four lane at the end of their driveway. Now I understand your extreme fear of "twitchy" cars. Getting in and out of that driveway has got to be scary for you.

 

Ha ha. Now you've run out of things to say. Good try though. They are all mine (at one time). Have fun with your garage queen, Geezer. Oh, oops, did you just crap your pants?

 

Come on guys, enough with the bickering, just agree to disagree.

 

Back to the topic:

I grew up driving manuals (Europe). The car I learned driving on was a Russian Lada with no power steering, no fuel injection, etc. I love driving manual transmission. In the US however, I drive an automatic. It is way more comfortable through daily traffic, and power loss is not bothersome if your engine has good low end torque.

Later I gave the manual transmission another chance and test drove the 2007 TSX 6-speed. Car and Driver raved about that 6-speed. My initial reaction was No! With that smoothness, and that engine, I definitely would choose the automatic.

The only car I would bother with a manual transmission is sS2000. It is just sooo good. Allmost like a motorcycle transmission. Sometimes, when I come home and turn of the engine, I switch gears and listen to the "click-click" sound. Aahhhh....

I must admit, the major reason I got the S2000 is the transmission. I think S2000 would not be an S2000 without it.

I daily drive the S, with pleasure, each time. Every three weeks or so, the rawness of the car feels a bit to much. A 15-minute drive in my wife's 2003 Accord is the remedy. Then I am good for another month...

 

Adding to the topic.....

My first three cars were all manual FWD Civics back when I was in med school. I had a 4-speed base Civic no-X (as opposed to DX or EX) that lasted me until I was well into residency.....and then I got married, giving up manuals .

The S was my first manual in well over 10 years. At the time I test drove the first one at a dealer four months ago, I hadn't set foot in a manual car for 14 years. I drove it with absolutely no problems, no stalls.....and got hooked on the S in the process. I mention this to say how easy the shifter is to handle, as are almost all Honda manuals. I say it's OK to have any Honda manual, even an S, as a first car. If you drive moderately, it's just like a Civic, only with lots less understeer and NO torque steer. RWD FTW!

The only other advice I would give to the OP is to buy an AP2 rather than an AP1, which is where it sounds like you're headed anyway. While I'm enjoying my AP1 immensely, the AP2 is a bit more forgiving in the handling department. If you are even a LITTLE uncomfortable, get an AP2 with traction control.

 

Actually your wrong their kinda. maybe. Awhile back i was just running cars through geico quotes just for kicks. The wrx sti was more than a viper. So i double checked just now to make sure i wasnt crazy cause it sounds crazy. I put in a 04 wrx sti and an 04 viper srt10.

viper =3122 per 6 month

wrx sti = 3427 per 6 month

I just filled out the forms and got to the first page that gave a quote and took the number from their. It may only be in my area or something else odd like that. Because it seems extremely strange just by the price difference in these cars. Isnt a viper about twice as much as an sti?

 

Repair costs are just one variable that goes into the equation.

 

Yeah, there are lots of things that go into the equation. One variable might be that STi's are usually bought by younger guys and are crashed more often than Vipers (mainly, because the buyers are more older/mature for the Viper). Most insurance companies take a look at the accident numbers on a particular car and how much it cost to repair (by the region).

Of course, this is only ONE of the many variables. More expensive does NOT mean less insurance. I'm willing to bet those SRT-4's are sky high. Actually, my ITR was 30% MORE than the S2000 to insure.