Why can't we all just get along?

 

I know I would get flammed and I dont care at all really. Fact is if you put the two besides each other they look identicle (minus the overlap weave). Mugen may have done all the testing in the world but the fact remains that they have overlap of CF on the top of the hood on two of them I have seen. So yeah IMO they overcharge for a half ass product. Sorry, I have facts to back up both statements. Do any of you? Have any of you guys compared the two side by side? If not, please do not post assumptions and or guesses. You dont know? Pics dont do any justice at all as most of you know. To my knowledge there are 3 Type V hoods in the states and I know each owner and all three agree. So its not just me.

BTW I said it was a little better. No need to get all worked up over nothing. Just stating an observation.
I also have a lot of Mugen toys on my car and some of there products I can justify price but some I cant..Thats all.

 

any opinions of the weave on a Top Secret hood?

 

would like to know also.

 

Ugh, it's so hard to debate things when people don't even read what the debate is about. No one is doubting the quality of the hood. We are arguing with you on your statement that the Mugen is a $1400 hood where the J's is a $2400 hood.

 

I hate to get off topic, but I just visited the J's website (http://www.jsracing.co.jp/) and was totally confused about their products. Anyway, I figured if anybody could clear up exactly what steps they took to ensure top notch quality, they could. Here is a direct quote from their site about the CF hood in question:

"A war way is made to appear at the top of the hoods by the computed design, and the power rise that the special hood which makes water temperature, a degree of inhalation air temperature decrese securely by comparing a pure plus by drawing out heat inside the engine room is certain is promised.

The strength which a pure plus is equal to is secured by making it double structure.

Air duct net standard equipment & normal hood locker correspondence."


Well, I don't know about you guys, but that sure clears it up to me. I would quote Mugen, but they don't care to translate like J's (clearly more consumer oriented).



On a side note, I agree that Mugen could put forward a better effort to keep down seams and weave problems. People that pay top dollar expect top quality along with good looks. I'm sure Ferrari wouldn't sell as many cars if they just focused on performance instead of fit and finish as well. It doesn't take a lot of money to go a few steps more and get a single sheet of CF.

BTW, J's if you're reading this, I'll be more than happy to write something in understandable english for you for a small fee.

 

[QUOTE=turbo_pwr,Oct 19 2004, 08:25 AM] Ugh, it's so hard to debate things when people don't even read what the debate is about.

 

Two Mugen, two J's Racing.



No one's doubting the J's quality, but since they invested almost nothing developing the hood, it is overpriced, if anything.

You think it's super fly to be mad JDM, and just because a knock-off has J's name on the box suddenly makes it OK and cool.

If J's designed their own functional hoods with decent quality, then sure, that price might be worth it. However, you obviously don't know how expensive it is to hire a bunch of overpaid, underworked engineers working in the wind tunnel.

Some Mugen parts are function over form, and it's a shame that some of them are being used by show cars. If you want to be baller, the Mugen name is indeed baller to the import crowd, but don't complain about their appearance of the pieces because that wasn't a priority during the R&D stages. For example, the Mugen bumper is fugly no doubt, but the function makes it one of the best bumpers out there. Then again, because it's Mugen and costs a lot of bling bling, it is the bumper to have. Now if this bumper was made by Veilside...

 

Like I said its no big deal but some of you guys blow things way out of proportion and thats ok. I have my own taste and I will keep it. I am informing the consumer whats out there and they dont always have to buy the Mugen (bling factor) products.

Honestly Mugen parts are not the best IMO at all. If some of you think different then you guys need a huge wake-up call. Oh well.

 

I feel your pain.