One question guys, that method of shift where you pull down on the shifter as you press on the clutch, it sounds a lot like speed shifting. I used to do this on a old GSR so I wondering maybe that was what his friend was referring to. As many of you guys know, with speed shifting you keep your foot on the gas and apply some pressure on the shifter. Then press the clutch and it jumps into second, but this is really bad for the car though. Well just wondeing

 

slap kick and then throw in a swift uppercut

 

no! no! the shifting is fine, it conserves your clutch. If you shift like that you'll never ever ever have to replace your clutch ever again... just your synchroes lol, dont slap your friend, ran over him

 

Well, if you had a dog box and not a synchro gearbox his method of shifting would be correct. However, you don't and niether does he. So therefore he is stupid.

Dog box: you apply pressure to take the car outta gear let of the gas just a tad and let the shift slide in to the next higher gear. (It is okay to use some force here BTW) ABSOLOUTELY LIGHTNING FAST SHIFTS!!!!!!! Dog boxes are awesome if you can drive them. But, if you don't know how to heel toe you need not apply.

 

I do what your friend suggest all the time during hard driving. Pressing the clutch more than and inch or two is way over kill. Ya gotta keep the rev's up in this car and shifting slow is a big down fall. I suggest you adjust the clutch pedal there is about one inch or slacky crappy that just slows shifting andmakes it hard to find the engagement point. After the pedal adjust ment it is real easy to find the engagement point. Maybe 1/2" to 1" is all ya need to switch gears. If ya go to the floor your looking at a .5 second shift. If ya go about 1" your looking at about .3 second shift. Once ya get good at whats going on pressure on the stick and just slightly pressing the clutch works awesome. Going into third almost requires no clutch depressing at all ...just a wee bit.
The s2000 times at the 1/4 mile track form mid 14's to mid to high 13's stock
is all in the shifting!

 

x 6

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ItalianBucwheat

 

I'm not sure about the pressure on the shift lever before the shift part. Sounds like a recipe to wear out your transmissions shift mechanism and the synchronizers ahead of their time.

The one thing I have seen relative newcomers to manual transmissions do, is they have a tendancy to ride the clutch, keeping their left foot on top of the pedal at all times. Only problem is, they sometimes apply pressure to the clutch peddle that they don't realize they're applying. The result is minor clutch slippage that they don't necessarily feel, but it's there. It's one of the best ways I know of to kill a clutch before it's time. It wasn't on an S2000 but I know of one dude that totally ate a brand new clutch disk and pressure plate in less then 18k miles because of this practice. He wasn't hard on the car in any other way, didn't hot rod or anything. He just insisted on keeping his foot over the clutch at all times like some folks to the brakes. You know the types, the ones who go down the road for 50 miles at a time and the brake lights never go out!

Just something to think about,
Drive Safe,
Steve R.

 

You could see the difference when you plot gtech runs using the computer software ya down load. Yes I believe the difference between a 13.7 1/4 mile and a 14.5 1/4 mile is the shifting. How many times have you seen I only got mid 14's and I launched. Then someone says I got 13.7. Its all in the shifting. 1st to 2nd 2nd to 3rd 3rd to 4th,,,,thats three shifts say .2 better on each shift .6 better e.t. .6 better in the e.t. of a 1/4 mile
That is so do able. If you go to the floor its wasted time space and energy. Not only is the shift quicker but the rev's drop less and you can feel the difference in the neck snap compared to granny shift with a granny shift ya get the rocks, your car leans forward slightly between shifts with the quick shift no foward lean. You keep the momentum going. You had the gtech ...did you ever use the computer software? You can get clear read outs on 8 1/2 X11 paper you can see where ya shift It displays as a flat line. So its not a guess. Maybe its .15 seconds a shift better...maybe its
.25 seconds better...but its right around there. you can zoom in and really see whats going on at shifts. You can only move your foot so fast and that extra 3 to 4 inches down and up eat time.

So a combo of less foot action...revs and flywheel stay up and momentum stays
these are what makes the difference!

 

Friend update, I slapped him, kicked him, ran over him with my car and then slapped him again!

Sounds to me like I can perform quicker shifts by learning to not push my clutch down all the way to the floor but that as long as I am clearing the gears, that would be enough. Would this be a bad practice? I have done this in the last couple of days and I have grinded them YET. I appreciate all of the dialogue, now excuse me while I go kick my friend while he is down!!