Life expectancy of the F20C?
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It's a Honda!
I'm being told (by my Acura tech who's reputation is impeccable)the technology used in this engine is years ahead of most car manufactures, and designed to be a viable technology ten years from now. Why would they put all that technology into a 32K car. Because they are Honda and their standards far exceed any other manufacture out there. The fact is Honda is recognized as the world leader in engine technology. To produce anything less is not a Honda! They have 200K written all over them!
I believe this is reinforced by MattsS2K information.
I'm being told (by my Acura tech who's reputation is impeccable)the technology used in this engine is years ahead of most car manufactures, and designed to be a viable technology ten years from now. Why would they put all that technology into a 32K car. Because they are Honda and their standards far exceed any other manufacture out there. The fact is Honda is recognized as the world leader in engine technology. To produce anything less is not a Honda! They have 200K written all over them!
I believe this is reinforced by MattsS2K information.
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I remember reading somewhere that one of the best estimates of potenial engine life was inches of piston travel per mile. The F20C is wayyyyyy up there in that regard. But I still think they will last well beyond 100k with out major trouble.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MattsS2K
According to Honda, this reduces valvetrain friction by 71%. As far as I know, the F20C is the first engine to utilize this feature.
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Matt
The BMW M engine with 315 to 333 ponies uses the same feature to reach 8000rpm. Which is pretty sweet for a 3.2 six. Apparently this motor is number 3 in hp/liter, preceded by Honda and Ferrari. But it is number 1 in torque/liter. (These are actually my three favorite engines in current production, though I've only driven two of them)
Hugh
According to Honda, this reduces valvetrain friction by 71%. As far as I know, the F20C is the first engine to utilize this feature.
Best regards,
Matt
Hugh
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Don't forget about the Integra Type R motor. It redlines at what, 8100? Haven't seen too many of those engines fail after hard and prolonged use. I think you can draw a parallel to the F20C from that..
But of course, piston speed plays a part in that, as well...
But of course, piston speed plays a part in that, as well...
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I'd better get 120-150k on this engine as I know this is one of the few cars I want to keep a LONG time. Since i've never had any engine probs with any of the 6 previosu Honda products I drove, i cannot see why this would be too much different except that I do drive this one fairly hard occasionally.
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I don't have any of your technical knowledge guys but I tell you that I know the engine will do 60,000 miles (Or is that 90,000) GUARANTEED.
Why do I know this? Not because of all the technical stuff (I cannot follow all that) just because I have it printed on my 3 yr warranty.
Under normal driving conditions (And what are they for this car?) it's good for a long, long way.
I have 150,000 on my CRX (Del Sol) and that is 8 years old now. I don't imagin many of us will ever see 200k in our S2000's as we will be driving their new baby (Whatever it may be) in the next 5 years.
Sam.
Why do I know this? Not because of all the technical stuff (I cannot follow all that) just because I have it printed on my 3 yr warranty.
Under normal driving conditions (And what are they for this car?) it's good for a long, long way.
I have 150,000 on my CRX (Del Sol) and that is 8 years old now. I don't imagin many of us will ever see 200k in our S2000's as we will be driving their new baby (Whatever it may be) in the next 5 years.
Sam.
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Truth is that no one knows. Honda development did durability testing but that's just an indication (to be verified or not by real-world testing.) I know I'll be using Mobil 1 for the life of this engine though.