manual trans going extinct
The S2000 seems like the perfect car for an F1-type semiautomatic transmission. Peaky, high-revving engine, Formula 1 heritage, the car practially screams for it (and I'm actually surprised it didn't appear on the type V's in Japan).
That said, not having a track nearby to run the car on, I'm happy to have the manual. Now, on my F430, the answer will be different...
That said, not having a track nearby to run the car on, I'm happy to have the manual. Now, on my F430, the answer will be different...
I feel that one can always make a manual car more powerful to compensate for the slower human-shifting speed, but one can never do anything to make a clutchless-manual/DSG car to increase that "fun" factor coming from a manual tranny.
Originally Posted by clawhammer,Apr 26 2006, 04:01 AM
There will always be a manual transmission car, given that consumers demand it. Personally I'm not buying into all this DSG, SMG, F1 crap. Give me a 6-speed manual please.
Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,Apr 26 2006, 09:17 AM
You will if you have no choice. If everyone phases out manuals, are you not going to drive sports cars anymore?
If you want to buy some kind of SMG or F1 tranny, fine, but the fact that sports cars like an M5 aren't being offered in a manual is really disturbing. Especially when BMW claims to be the ultimate driving machine where the driver is part of the car.
On a side note though, the desire for automatics is not exclusively an American thing, but in Europe in countries like Italy, 9 out of 10 cars are manuals, so maybe there still is hope.
On a side note though, the desire for automatics is not exclusively an American thing, but in Europe in countries like Italy, 9 out of 10 cars are manuals, so maybe there still is hope.
[QUOTE=XclusiveAutosports,Apr 26 2006, 06:21 AM] If you want to buy some kind of SMG or F1 tranny, fine, but the fact that sports cars like an M5 aren't being offered in a manual is really disturbing.
[QUOTE]If you want to buy some kind of SMG or F1 tranny, fine, but the fact that sports cars like an M5 aren't being offered in a manual is really disturbing. Especially when BMW claims to be the ultimate driving machine where the driver is part of the car.
Originally Posted by SpitfireS
IMO a sequential manual gearbox would be something to wish for in a S2000.
Not with paddle shifting, with a stick.
Forwards for downshift, backwards for upshift.
Not with paddle shifting, with a stick.
Forwards for downshift, backwards for upshift.
Except, of course, for that absurd side-to-side pattern on Mercedes-Benzes.
HPH
For day to day driving, a true classis manual transmission (manual clutch and gearbox) is going to be the most rewarding.
For a dedicated race car, a sequential transmisson is the only way to go. I drove a Formula SAE car for the better part of my senior year at VT in '05. Like almost all FSAE cars, we used a bike motor with an integrated sequential transmission. Shifting was a blast. Not sure how well it would work for a road car though...
For a dedicated race car, a sequential transmisson is the only way to go. I drove a Formula SAE car for the better part of my senior year at VT in '05. Like almost all FSAE cars, we used a bike motor with an integrated sequential transmission. Shifting was a blast. Not sure how well it would work for a road car though...








