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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 05:27 AM
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The S2000 seems like the perfect car for an F1-type semiautomatic transmission. Peaky, high-revving engine, Formula 1 heritage, the car practially screams for it (and I'm actually surprised it didn't appear on the type V's in Japan).

That said, not having a track nearby to run the car on, I'm happy to have the manual. Now, on my F430, the answer will be different...
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 05:45 AM
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I feel that one can always make a manual car more powerful to compensate for the slower human-shifting speed, but one can never do anything to make a clutchless-manual/DSG car to increase that "fun" factor coming from a manual tranny.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by clawhammer,Apr 26 2006, 04:01 AM
There will always be a manual transmission car, given that consumers demand it. Personally I'm not buying into all this DSG, SMG, F1 crap. Give me a 6-speed manual please.
You will if you have no choice. If everyone phases out manuals, are you not going to drive sports cars anymore?
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,Apr 26 2006, 09:17 AM
You will if you have no choice. If everyone phases out manuals, are you not going to drive sports cars anymore?
Not new sports cars - its not like you can't but the old ones!
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 06:21 AM
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If you want to buy some kind of SMG or F1 tranny, fine, but the fact that sports cars like an M5 aren't being offered in a manual is really disturbing. Especially when BMW claims to be the ultimate driving machine where the driver is part of the car. On a side note though, the desire for automatics is not exclusively an American thing, but in Europe in countries like Italy, 9 out of 10 cars are manuals, so maybe there still is hope.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 06:31 AM
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[QUOTE=XclusiveAutosports,Apr 26 2006, 06:21 AM] If you want to buy some kind of SMG or F1 tranny, fine, but the fact that sports cars like an M5 aren't being offered in a manual is really disturbing.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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IMO a sequential manual gearbox would be something to wish for in a S2000.
Not with paddle shifting, with a stick.
Forwards for downshift, backwards for upshift.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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[QUOTE]If you want to buy some kind of SMG or F1 tranny, fine, but the fact that sports cars like an M5 aren't being offered in a manual is really disturbing. Especially when BMW claims to be the ultimate driving machine where the driver is part of the car.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SpitfireS
IMO a sequential manual gearbox would be something to wish for in a S2000.
Not with paddle shifting, with a stick.
Forwards for downshift, backwards for upshift.
Unfortunately, the shift pattern has been established by the Tiptronic and other existing "manumatic" transmissions out there -- forward for upshift, backward for downshift -- and I bet that that's just the way it's going to be (racing transmissions notwithstanding).

Except, of course, for that absurd side-to-side pattern on Mercedes-Benzes. HPH
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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For day to day driving, a true classis manual transmission (manual clutch and gearbox) is going to be the most rewarding.

For a dedicated race car, a sequential transmisson is the only way to go. I drove a Formula SAE car for the better part of my senior year at VT in '05. Like almost all FSAE cars, we used a bike motor with an integrated sequential transmission. Shifting was a blast. Not sure how well it would work for a road car though...
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