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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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wow that sucks good too see that your ok!
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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Maybe hold off on that turbo install..

Looks like youve got more that enough power in the car to get yourself in trouble with.

With a turbo you wouldve been going way faster than you were. Or the spin wouldve been more extreme.

Just saying, you flipped a 240hp car. Your going to be in a bad way with a 500hp car.


Be careful, whatever you do..
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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Glad you are OK and able to write about it..
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dizings2k,Feb 19 2007, 01:26 PM
Maybe hold off on that turbo install..

Looks like youve got more that enough power in the car to get yourself in trouble with.

With a turbo you wouldve been going way faster than you were. Or the spin wouldve been more extreme.

Just saying, you flipped a 240hp car. Your going to be in a bad way with a 500hp car.


Be careful, whatever you do..
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not true. He probably would have entered the turn at the same speed either way... just because you have more power doesn't mean you are using more power 100% of the time.. stop hating.
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PDX S2000,Feb 19 2007, 02:21 PM
not true. He probably would have entered the turn at the same speed either way... just because you have more power doesn't mean you are using more power 100% of the time.. stop hating.
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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Turbo would've delivered more power to the wheels on the drive leading to the event. The tires would have been warmer from the increased energy delivered from the rubber stress against the pavement (assuming suitably spirited driving deserving of a turbo).

The pre-warmed tires would have improved traction on the curve. Turbo could have prevented this accident.
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruprecht,Feb 19 2007, 02:35 PM
Turbo would've delivered more power to the wheels on the drive leading to the event. The tires would have been warmer from the increased energy delivered from the rubber stress against the pavement (assuming suitably spirited driving deserving of a turbo).

The pre-warmed tires would have improved traction on the curve. Turbo could have prevented this accident.
I like the way you think

Actually, I've thought about it a bit since it happened and believe that it could go either way with the addition of a turbo. With more power to the wheels the slide could have been more controlled from the begining, it seemed that when the S grabbed the steering became less of a force and the inertia from the tires grabbing threw the mass in the opposite directions. I know that with carts judicious input of the throttle can pull you out of a spin and keep the carts momentum going the direction of the turn, similarly with bikes.

I honestly don't believe a turbo would have had any impact on the severity of the incident. In the first picture, though not clearly visible, the road is about 200 feet below where the car ended up, in the picture on the road you can see in the background that it's a long 90 degree uphill corner that flattens out at the end. A car could only go so fast considering it's a public road and I was watching for traffic. It was just one of those things, a little too much momentum and an uneven and wet road surface (plus I'd never driven it before and was being "goaded" by and accomplice ).

I'm thankful no one was hurt, no one got bent out of shape and I'm the only one who has to deal with the consequences. The officer who showed up was sympathetic and an extrememely likeable guy who just did his job, he said the only reason he felt he HAD to be there was to determine wether or not anyone was under the unfluence, we already had it 1/2 way onto the trailer when he arrived.

It's not over for the S and I, it didn't change the way I feel about the car or the upgrades, it's a dang fine machine that was only doing what it was told and reacting the only way it can. I can't wait to get back in it and get the tires hot, but maybe a pre-run will be in order next time

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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruprecht,Feb 19 2007, 05:35 PM
Turbo would've delivered more power to the wheels on the drive leading to the event. The tires would have been warmer from the increased energy delivered from the rubber stress against the pavement (assuming suitably spirited driving deserving of a turbo).

The pre-warmed tires would have improved traction on the curve. Turbo could have prevented this accident.
Not necessarly. I don't know what the ambient temps were that night BUT Summer Only tires will NOT properly warm up in sub 40 degree weather no matter how "spirited" your drive is UNLESS your doing burnouts to heat them up. Also it was wet and those tires SUCK at wet handling so more likly then not, the turbo would have just made a bad situtation worse by giving more power to a poorly wet rated summer only tire (in possibly winter).


Glad your ok though and good to hear you have a somewhat positive attitude despite this downfall
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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Those aren't summer only rated tires, they're wet/dry tires.

Granted they aren't the best at either but they definately aren't the worse.
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mistman,Feb 19 2007, 06:56 PM
Those aren't summer only rated tires, they're wet/dry tires.

Granted they aren't the best at either but they definately aren't the worse.
ehem,

Straight from tirerack,

Ultra High Performance Summer

g-Force Sport

g-Force T/A KDW

g-Force T/A KDW 2

I also reconginize (sp) that tread pattern on your tires, they are DEFINATLY summer only rubber (more specifically the KDW-2's), which have horrible wet ratings, and (obviously) horrible cold weather ratings. Driving spirited in the wet, cold, winter is playing with fire on SO tires.



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