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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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Perhaps this should be a poll instead.

After reading some of the comments from people (like myself) who consider the s2000 future "classic", I began to wonder how much certain modifications might de-value the car.

In other words,would an s2000 kept stock for 20 years have more value than an s2k with various engine and body mods.

Obviously it would depend on a number of factors, but what kinds of mods would you want to keep on your S if you were going to maintain your car for as long as possible?

Personnaly, I have no engine mods other than the Muz Snorkle. Other than that I have an extensive sounds system that I would keep (upgrade over the years, I'm sure) and a number of interior mods such as Muz Floormats, Rick's Leather center console cover, etc.

I also keep all of my original parts so I could easily return the car to full stock if I wished to do so.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 11:12 AM
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I see it going down like any other beloved make of car.

Go to a model specific car show (vette, bug, mustang) and you will see orginal OEM, slightly modified and heavily modified

Bugs for instance you have bajas, lowriders, modified etc etc.

The question to me is, if you modify (body kit, wheels and so on) do you keep it that way or update over the years as new kits/wheels become available.

At some point the manufacturers of these after market parts will move on to newer product lines RSX, S3000?? or whatever else will come out. At that point, the amount of demand for our S2000's will depend on the quality of what comes out after it and how well or how many of our cars survive.

Good question though
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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I would mod it and just keep the stock stuff you take off so you can return it to stock whenever you wanted. Best of both worlds.

John
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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I say if you want to mod it, mod it. I prefer my car stock, it's still a lot of fun for me that way. As far as taking away from some sort of collector value, I personally wouldn't worry about it. I'm not expecting my car to become some sort of collector's item. The best I'm hoping for is getting as much enjoyment out of my car for as long as possible. The notion of the S2k becoming a "Classic" just seems a little far fetched, japanese cars pretty much never appreciate in value like a corvette or something else might. With the amount of S2k's out there, I don't expect it will either.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by elmmx5,Jul 5 2005, 02:51 PM
I say if you want to mod it, mod it. I prefer my car stock, it's still a lot of fun for me that way. As far as taking away from some sort of collector value, I personally wouldn't worry about it. I'm not expecting my car to become some sort of collector's item. The best I'm hoping for is getting as much enjoyment out of my car for as long as possible. The notion of the S2k becoming a "Classic" just seems a little far fetched, japanese cars pretty much never appreciate in value like a corvette or something else might. With the amount of S2k's out there, I don't expect it will either.
I'm not optimistic about my S appreciating in value, but one thing to keep in mind is that pretty much no car appreciates in value until it's 30+ years old. Tell me an Asian import car from 1960 that has such a following. The closest things I can think of are the old Z cars and they are on the same if not better track appreciation wise as the Mustangs from the same era. Restored they can go for lotsa cash. Nissan itself even refurbed a bunch of 240Zs and resold them for a signifigant profit.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jwa4378,Jul 5 2005, 11:14 AM
I would mod it and just keep the stock stuff you take off so you can return it to stock whenever you wanted. Best of both worlds.

John
This will help preserve your OEM parts and pieces
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mbilderback,Jul 5 2005, 02:59 PM
I'm not optimistic about my S appreciating in value, but one thing to keep in mind is that pretty much no car appreciates in value until it's 30+ years old. Tell me an Asian import car from 1960 that has such a following. The closest things I can think of are the old Z cars and they are on the same if not better track appreciation wise as the Mustangs from the same era. Restored they can go for lotsa cash. Nissan itself even refurbed a bunch of 240Zs and resold them for a signifigant profit.
Sure, a beautifully restored car will fetch more than it did when it was new, but that's due mainly to inflation, not it becoming a "classic". I guess what I was thinking when I said classic was on a bigger scale than what I communicated in my previous post. In my view there are only a couple classic Mustangs, things like the Shelby 350GT, cars that have obviously appreciated far more than just inflation. Japan historically just hasn't had many cars that would fit that description, the only one I can think of off hand is the Toyota 2000GT. I can't guarantee that that S2000 won't end up like that, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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Originally Posted by mbilderback,Jul 5 2005, 02:59 PM
I'm not optimistic about my S appreciating in value, but one thing to keep in mind is that pretty much no car appreciates in value until it's 30+ years old. Tell me an Asian import car from 1960 that has such a following. The closest things I can think of are the old Z cars and they are on the same if not better track appreciation wise as the Mustangs from the same era. Restored they can go for lotsa cash. Nissan itself even refurbed a bunch of 240Zs and resold them for a signifigant profit.
I am trying to buy a BMW Z3M coupe. They were built from 1998 to 2002 and total production was around 2000 cars. They are going up in value as we speak. S54 versions produced in 2001 or 2002 are now going for 5000 more then this time last year. Some are now going for original sticker. Very low milage examples are going for more then sticker when new. One with 2700 miles if being offered at 60,000 and the owner has turned down an offer of 50,000. Not bad on a 3 year old car that stickered for 44,000.

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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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I am totally confident that the S2000 and the NSX line will both become classics. They both represent a definable departure away from the current attitude of Honda in the eyes of the world at the time. These are not econo boxes, they are not necessarily concerened with MPG, they were designed as pure performance cars and the apex of honda engineering at that time.

Granted, what may come next may be even better (I know it will be) but the S and the N represent the birth/rebirth (in the case of the S series) of the Honda performance car. 15 years from now when people think and say where did all of these really awesome ideas first come from they will look back and see our cars and the interest in them will blossom.

Other Japanese cars that will last:

Skylines
Supras
Evo's
Silvias
Mini's
300ZX
350Z / G35
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PrimoGen,Jul 6 2005, 10:42 AM
...Other Japanese cars that will last:

Skylines
Supras
Evo's
Silvias
Mini's
300ZX
350Z / G35
Mini's ?
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