I'm looking at the StopTech Stage 2 package from go fast labs. I figure i'd ask you guys since a lot of you have been around the scene longer. Anyway these are the ones i'm looking at. Basiclly I don't want to spend any more money then that, so anything at that price or less would be great if you know of anything better. Thanks

http://www.gofastlab.com/s2ki/product.php?...27&cat=0&page=1

 

moving to S2000 talk, as general product questions go there.

 

IMO, what your looking at is not much of a brake upgrade and this is why I say that:

1) You'll see some benefit from the change to Axxis pads but it's a trade off, they will wear faster and dust more along with possibly shortening the life of the nice slotted rotor. The pads may be able to decrease brake fade in a track situation if that's what your looking for.

2) The slotted rotor in the kit is a stock diameter and I assume thickness. The slots will add some cooling effect but overall they are not much different than stock. Sure the slots and/or drilled holes do add a nice cosmetic appearance and the black coated non-swept center will eliminate some of the rust that you see also a plus. Overall the rotors don't look like they will do much to improve braking performance.

3) SS brake lines. Lots of discucssion on this, but from what I've read on posts by others that seem to be pretty knowledgable on the subject say that the SS lines don't do anything.

4) Mutol fluid. Nice upgrade for the track, a higher temp fluid that can take more abuse but may need to be changed out more often. Kind of like the pads.

Since there's no change in the caliper or rotor diameter I'd say the upgrade is both cosmetic and funcitional in that it probably makes the existing system a little better under high temp conditions but don't expect them to stop the car like a 4 or 6 piston setup.

Remember, the S2000 is about balance, the stock brakes work great given the weight of the car and size of tires. If you do a serious brake upgrade you really need more rubber on the ground (bigger contact patch) in order to balance things out and reap the full benefits.

Furthermore, see the note at the bottom of the listing:
Good for autocross and light HPDE use. Not recommended for extended track sessions. I've seen the stock brakes do pretty well for people doing hot laps at tracks that are very hard on brakes. The stock brakes also do very well for HDPE and Autocross so you'll need to determine for yourself if the kit is worth it.

 

Damn, S2kdude... good reply.

When people ask about brake upgrades I always have to ask "why?". Do you experience fade? If so, you are tracking your car and some track pads like Hawk HP+'s will fix that at least for 1/2hr sessions. Or, are you looking for some bling? If so, do what ever looks best to you.

Peace.

 

Thanks for the replies guys .. Yes I know they're an OEM replacement and the stopping power shouldn't change that much, but like you said they do look very good. I just bought this, https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...&hl=2k1wolfster , and i'm shooting for some pretty big power. I'm not real hard into Auto-x but I do do it from time to time. But daily, I do drive the car very hard, but at the same time, it's going to be somewhat of a show car, not all out b/c I really don't care that much.... haha. Anyway, what would you guys do in my situation? Thanks again for all the help.

 

The turbo looks really good and you've got the engine worked from top to bottom so if you ask what I would do, there are a couple choices depending on what your looking for:

Option 1) Bear Eradispeed Rotors and powdercoat stock calipers (Rick's is a little expensive but there's a guy in Floriday doing them much cheaper). The Bear Rotors and powder coated calipers have more bling and you can still add the pads and fluid easily at the same time. Total cost should still be the same or less than the Stop-Tech kit.

Option 2) I saw a Willwood group buy on the 4 piston calipers and larger rotors that still fit the OEM wheels or the other choice was larger rotors and 6 piston calipers if you already have larger wheels. I think the 4 piston GB started around $1000 but you will be getting a "real" brake upgrade. Here's the link: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...2621&hl=wilwood

Good luck with your upgrade!

 

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One place to look for brake upgrade parts is on www.tirerack.com, they have a nice selection. They used to carry Baer (notice the spelling) brake Eradispeeds OEM replacements but I don't see them there anymore. I'm sure if you shop around you'll find a Baer dealer online. The Baer website is www.baer.com or http://www.baer.com/Products/EradiSpeed.aspx.

Here is a pic of the Eradispeed rotor:




Here is a pic of the two-piece Eradispeed (higher cost):