So was the oil plug in or not after this mess? Maybe your engine is fine and the oil plug came off and just bounced around underneath your car hence the metallic noise. So after this event, did the engine run fine or you turned it off thinking you blew up the engine. Sorry if you answered these questions before but I just skimmed through this thread.

 

he says it was in..... my feeling is though if he made a habit of bouncing off the rev limiter a rod bolt could have been affected..... still could be a defect though, im hoping they cover this under warranty.....

 

honda - I am with you on this revlimiter use. I did not say I would recommend to use rev limiter constantly. I understand it as an insurance switch. And insurance is there to prevent the damage, not to defere it. And I bet Honda QA hits it many thousands times before they release engine to production.

sjs - take it easy and relax, no reason to go nuts

 

If you are referring to incremental abuse as a result of extreme RPM's.....Absolutely.

There is not one single piece on the S2000 that does not wear over time and gradual use. The more it is used, the quicker it will wear out and eventually fail.

 

yes, and the fact that even if it doesnt do immediate damage by bouncing off the rev limiter, it will set you up for premature wear, and then even if you get lucky and do not get premature wear, its definitely never OK to make a habit out of doing that.....

r2- I agree its like insurance, and those motors were tested to the extreme, but every motor is different and you may not be so lucky, bouncing off the limiter can only complicate things...hopefully you get covered, and trust me, you probably wont if you mention anything about bouncing off the limiter....

 

hyper, to tell the truth - I don't know. My car is so low that I could not see it and I did not focus on to check it. I was searching the place where it happened all over and did not see any particle fallen off.

 

well, i assume the dealer would have told you by now if it was something as simple as the pan bolt or filter having a problem and in that case they wouldnt want anything to do with the car, that doesnt rule out the possibility, but at this point, along with the oil being in one pool mostly, makes it slight.... also, the bolt didnt have to fall off, if it loosened or same with the filter it would stay on and lose oil, but probably not in that drastic of a fashion, unless you were losing oil a little bit at a time over the whole ride, got low on oil, threw a rod or rod bearing out the side which could have caused it, but these are far estimations

 

I have to disagree with you on rev limiter thing. The way you put it the driver could never hit it. S2k is sold as a sports car. Since Honda did not disclose that rev-limiter is off-limit (like saying 'never hit it or you are screwed) nor they said how many times it should be hit and what effect it has on the engine reliability they must be liable for all engine damages. The only exception would be overreving on the way down plus bad maintenance. You are not working for Honda, are you?

As to bouncing off - being in Honda shoes I would record the 'use' of rev limiter in the computer. Just in case. Does anybody know if they are doing it?

 

Honda should not have to tell you any of that..........common sense should.

r2d2, this is a car, not a perpetual motion machine.

Every time two pieces of metal rub against each other, there is some wear. The more they rub against each other, the more they wear. You should not need Honda to clarify that for you.

End of the free Physics lesson for the day.

 

I think you misunderstood me, I was agreeing with you on the rev limiter thing and I still agree, but what I was trying to say was exactly what you said in your last post, there is no telling what affect (or how many times) you can take your engine up to the rev limiter, and not have it fail, and im not saying you cant hit it, and hit it plenty of times, bottom line on what im trying to say is that it definitely isnt good to take the engine up that high all the time.....

also, to tell you the truth you better hope honda doesnt have a way of recording how many times you took the car to the rev limiter otherwise you may not be covered :-( and this may end the debate on the rev limiter lol...... we consider over revving to be going over the rev limiter (only way possible is the miss shift) but most reps at honda consider over-revving to be going into the redline or up to the limiter, so be careful if you ever mention anything about it to them....