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Old May 28, 2011 | 08:36 AM
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For slow up shifts I tend to rev match up when the rpms drop too much for smoother gear changes, got used to it already. I sometimes start first gear at about 1.7k RPMs just have to be gentle with clutch and throttle control. I don't know how different Ap2s are but it took me quite a while to get my driving to be smooth (to where I can accept it).
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Old May 28, 2011 | 03:55 PM
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yea this happens to me many times when im shifting to 2nd, probably shifting to early or not enough gas
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Old May 28, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by kolyan2k
The question is about the clutch. I've had 3 manual cars before and none of them were as jerky as S2k. Like for example....when I put my cars in reverse and start backing out slowly, before I was able to let the clutch go....not on S2k, at such a slow speed I have to hold the clutch half way in or the car almost stalls. Whats up with this ? Is that clutch delay valve screwing with me ? because 1st to 2nd are not exactly smooth either.... been driving the car for about 500-600 miles now
That statement bolded above is very true.

I suggest the following:
1. Try adjusting your seat and move it a wee bit forward and see if you are able to be more smooth with the clutch engagement.

2. If seat adjustment is fine, I suggest you practice the following. It helped me avoid grinding from 1st to 2nd, and I think it will help you too. Do it as a conscious exercise until it becomes second nature to you.
- Clutch in all the way to the floor against the firewall.
- Wait a split-second for engine revs to drop and then a smooth, gentle easing of the shift lever from 1st to second.
- Now as you start releasing the clutch, gently feather the gas pedal at the point of the clutch friction zone and increase gas as your foot is coming off the clutch.
IMHO, the car or any car is only as smooth or jerky as the driver. Work on your smoothness. Dont be in a rush to go fast. As you start doing things smoothly trying to avoid the grind or jerks, you will get better at it and will become much faster. Listen to your car when giving it inputs. The s2000 will give you feedback on whether you did well or need improvement. Hope this helps

The S2000 rewards smoothness and gentleness and that is why it is not like the 3 manual cars you have owned before.
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Old May 28, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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^^

As for RPM, from a dead stop street driving, I usually take off around 1300-1400 rpm. I'm on a ACT prolite and ACT HDSS clutch, which has significantly harsher engagement than stock, and less rotational mass.


Nobody's asked this yet. Does your car have an aftermarket clutch? I'm assuming you bought it used, and an aftermarket clutch is very likely.
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Old May 29, 2011 | 05:20 AM
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I can shift without jecking, but I just feel that I am burning clutch...
similar problem was with 335i and clutch delay. many complained that 1st and 2nd are jercky and all they had to do is remove that thing. I believe its easier on 335i then on s2k though. a side from clutch bleed, takes about 5 min. my car was used and I thought it was already removed since I never had any problem shifting.

oh and my car is bone stock.
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Old May 29, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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I have the CDV on my car. Does not cause jerking. You will figure it out eventually. There is no one correct approach to ironing out driving-related kinks. Some fix the car while others fix themselves.
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Old May 29, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by aashish2
I have the CDV on my car. Does not cause jerking. You will figure it out eventually. There is no one correct approach to ironing out driving-related kinks. Some fix the car while others fix themselves.
Agreed, you need to fix your driving habits, it shouldn't be the car.

When I first got mine I was jerking and clunking around for a solid 2 weeks before I found the sweet spot for timing shifts.
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