S2000 Talk Discussions related to the S2000, its ownership and enthusiasm for it.

Need Grip!!

Thread Tools
 
Old Feb 9, 2001 | 06:30 PM
  #1  
Naka's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Louisville, KY
Default

This evening was raining, about 65F. When arriving to work , I always get from the parallel accesory road to the open parking lot through a short wide entrance, which I always use as a "chicane" (quick left then right). Never had a problem in my Civic (no matter how fast). No problem in the Stook either. But today was a different story (wet). I was getting in relatively slow (3rd gear, 4k rpm), turn left, and when I turned right under mild acceleration, wow, the back end snaps loose to the left, which I catched with almost full oposite lock to the right. The car answered back sending the back end, this time, to the right side, which I was lucky to catch too. I was relieved I had enough space to maneuver.
I had the car for 6 days and 900 miles and this is my second sudden oversteer experience. The first one bringing the car from Michigan in a cold, salty highway entrance, in third gear at only 3,000 rpm!!! Is this the normal behavior of the car or am doing something wrong?
Anyhow I love this car and my priority number one will be to go the MidOhio Performance Driving School.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2001 | 06:46 PM
  #2  
Tox's Avatar
Tox
Registered User
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
From: The wilds of
Default

Check for spring spacers your dealer may have overlooked, and make sure your tires have the right pressures. If everything's OK, definitely do the driving school! (Note -- I'm not being facetious here. I intend to do the same, this year hopefully.)
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2001 | 06:49 PM
  #3  
yu888's Avatar
Registered User
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 3,362
Likes: 0
From: South Bay
Default

sorry dude but glad you recovered. I think most of us have done it at least once. The car is not happy in the wet, especially standing water, and the rear end reacts first. I'm doing the perfomance driving school thing in April. hey , cant hurt, and gotta be fun. Happy motoring!
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2001 | 06:53 PM
  #4  
Acceleratrix's Avatar
Registered User
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
From: Dallas
Default

Well all I can offer from my non expertise point of view: you now have had a great learning experience. Now with every questionable corner you take, be expecting over steer so you can actively work with the car instead of reacting to the unexpected.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2001 | 07:09 PM
  #5  
Naka's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Louisville, KY
Default

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tox
[B]Check for spring spacers your dealer may have overlooked, and make sure your tires have the right pressures.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2001 | 07:27 PM
  #6  
Jerry1189's Avatar
Registered User
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default

What is that Shin-Etsu Silicone grease for anyway?
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2001 | 07:30 PM
  #7  
Tox's Avatar
Tox
Registered User
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
From: The wilds of
Default

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Naka
Originally posted by Tox
...Regarding tire pressures, I checked it 2 days ago: 32 psi, although the temperature has rised at least 15F since then. Will that cause over or understeer?
32 psi would go up a few percent, maybe to 33 or 34 psi, with a 15 degree rise. That won't make any difference to anyone but Michael Schumacher.

What I was thinking of was that one of your rears might be significantly lower than the other. This reduces the rolling radius on that side, and the Torsen differential unsettles the car by steering toward the side with the deflated tire. In the wet, this could start a spin. But if your tires were the same pressure, that's not it.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2001 | 07:49 PM
  #8  
Naka's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Louisville, KY
Default

Originally posted by Jerry1189
What is that Shin-Etsu Silicone grease for anyway?
That's the grease that Honda recommends in the manual to mantain the rubber seal between the top and the winshield and windows. You are supposed to apply it every 3 to 6 months to prevent cracking and leaking (Honda part number 08798-9013). You can find a lot of information like this in the S2Ki site (FAQ). It's excellent for new owners (like me).
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2001 | 12:41 AM
  #9  
Mavic's Avatar
Registered User
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
Default

Racing school for me in the near future. Never had an unexpected oversteer experience yet. However, in a car like this, I will not be able to get the most out of it if my driving skills stay at the present level. I sat in another one of the member's car once. He did a U turn with a planned tail slide. The car felt as if it pivot around the front wheels. There was no drama about it either. He had attended racing school.
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2001 | 12:55 AM
  #10  
lvs2k's Avatar
Registered User
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 4,959
Likes: 0
From: Bedford
Default

You mentioned you had successfully negotiated this same wet-pavement turn in your Civic. Maybe your inexperience with RWD contibuted to the problem. Perhaps with a little more stick time and a stint in a good driver's school you'll get the hang of it.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Nugen
S2000 Talk
25
Jul 1, 2012 11:04 AM
Siggy
S2000 Street Encounters
2
Dec 15, 2009 09:04 AM
JustinsanE
Hawaii S2000 Owners
15
Oct 23, 2009 12:19 AM
imnida
S2000 Talk
35
May 2, 2007 04:49 AM
Darien1629
S2000 Talk
10
May 17, 2004 12:27 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:05 AM.