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Old May 15, 2001 | 11:31 AM
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OK, One more scenerio (how many do you need Bieg?)

Sitting in a parking lot
Car in front
Car in Back
Soccer Mom to your right starts backing up right at you
Need a horn that will catch her attention

This happened to me and my Supra Turbo. Absolutely NO WHERE TO GO!!! There wasn't a single defensive driving option to prevent the $1800 dmamge and general pain in the a** caused by the combination of a distracted (if not careless) mom with a car load of kids and the Supra's inadequate horn.

So let it go Bieg, just let it goooooooo.......
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Old May 15, 2001 | 12:00 PM
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loving this new horn more and more!!!
this is one change that honda should do at the factory...
the sound is almost as beautiful as VTEC!
i did say almost-
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Old May 15, 2001 | 12:22 PM
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I have never heard so many horns go off until we moved to Beverly Hills. I swear, those rich sons of bitches have no patience. They honk for everything. My Civic's horn doesn't even work, so I can't join in on the noise.
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Old May 15, 2001 | 02:22 PM
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This happened to me and my Supra Turbo. Absolutely NO WHERE TO GO!!! There wasn't a single defensive driving option to prevent the $1800 dmamge and general pain in the a** caused by the combination of a distracted (if not careless) mom with a car load of kids and the Supra's inadequate horn.
So your logic is that she was unable to hear a horn (no matter how feeble) that was less than 15 feet away from her ear?

More likely she had her head up her butt and nothing short of an air raid siren would get her attention.


BTW YOU control how close you are to the car in front of you, sitting anywhere (like stopped at a light) you should ALWAYS leave enough room so you can pull out of the line in an emergency. Otherwise you are trapped like a rat.

Just another tip on how NOT to be at the scene of the accident yet to happen.

[Edited by Bieg on 05-15-2001 at 03:27 PM]
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Old May 15, 2001 | 02:32 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bieg
More likely she had her head up her butt and nothing short of an air raid siren would get her attention.
So how do wire in one of those Bieg? Dont you think that might change the 50:50 weight ratio of the car?

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Old May 15, 2001 | 02:55 PM
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I've been trapped like a rat, once or twice and had to curse my Honda horn. The driving deities delivered me from these predicaments, but it could've been bad for ole 2x6spds. I'm thinking about the kind of horn which provokes an involuntary reflex response, an unconscious, yet immediate yanking of wheel so the offending vehicle goes the other way, without any mediation or interference from any cognitive organ. Of course such a horn might be socially irresponsible, even cause an accident by blowing the wandering one into the other lane, I'm bad. That's the kind of horn I'm talking about.

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Old May 15, 2001 | 03:04 PM
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2x6

I guess you could get a set off a Kenworth or a Locomotive. That should strike fear into the hearts of the day dreamers.

My new JC Whitney horn can be switched from "La Cucaracha" to "Here Comes The Bride" and every woman will stop and come to attention to watch a wedding I figure.
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Old May 15, 2001 | 03:17 PM
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Just make sure the horn doesn't start playing that here comes the ice cream man song.

OK, La Cucaraca is nice, sure. But a horn which provokes a spasm reflex the other way, that's a horn.

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Old Jun 2, 2001 | 04:49 PM
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You're all being kinda hard on Bieg in my opinion... he makes a valid point and perhaps some of you are understandably taking his points as blanket statements, when I think all he's really trying to say is, don't upgrade horns so that you can be a better driver, because "for the experienced drivers, emergencies practically never arise" (loosely quoted from Paul Frere, accomplished racer and a trained engineer, Le Mans winner, Grand Prix driver, and Road & Track Magazine's European editor)....

In spite of this, as experienced as I believe I am, I would love to have powerful horns to help me out in the event of nasty surprises where "evasion" is dangerous or impossible.

I actually got the FIAMM triple air horns today pretty much for the reason that Winter brought up -- for driver education. I like to let others know when they're crossing the line into my on-road pet-peeves.
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Old Jun 2, 2001 | 06:26 PM
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You're all being kinda hard on Bieg in my opinion... he makes a valid point and perhaps some of you are understandably taking his points as blanket statements, when I think all he's really trying to say is, don't upgrade horns so that you can be a better driver, because "for the experienced drivers, emergencies practically never arise" (loosely quoted from Paul Frere, accomplished racer and a trained engineer, Le Mans winner, Grand Prix driver, and Road & Track Magazine's European editor)...
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Close. Excellent drivers rarely need to use a horn and they almost never, ever have to rely on one to save their butt.

It is kind of like riding a "Trials" motorcycle event. If you have to put your foot down (Dab) you lose a point. The good guys can ride over almost anything without dabbing once. If you have to blow your horn you have not achieved perfection in your driving*.

*Zen and the art of driving an S2000.
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