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Old May 15, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by s2kVTAK,May 15 2009, 09:53 AM
as far as the "nitrogen enriched" bs, nitrogen is an inert gaseus gas. how are they going to put that into your gas tank? this would just escape the second the fuel system is opened. maybe its liquid? no liquid nitrogen is very close to absolute zero which is about -460 degrees...

im no chem major or anything, but everyone that i have talked to about this just laughs at the fact that shell would even try to push the fact they put nitrogen in their fuel. whats the perks to doing this?
Gasoline additives are molecules, and they all have nitrogen atoms. They are liquids at room temperature. This is not diatomic gas, like you'd find at a welding supply shop. Think nitrogen fertilizer that you'd put in the ground. Just because they contain nitrogen doesn't mean they can't be in solid form.
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Old May 15, 2009 | 08:06 AM
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Ya thats what I was thinking, marketing ploy
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Old May 15, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Chevron Techron + Shell V-Power = Vtecron! ftw!
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Old May 15, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Article from Gasoline Chemist: http://vettenet.org/octane.html

The Only benefit from Shells new formula is to sell more gas!

Press Release
http://www.shell.us/home/content/usa/about...gen_030209.html

oooo interactive!
http://www.shell.us/home/content/usa/produ...te_experts.html
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Old May 15, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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If it's convenient I go to a local station that has 100% gas.
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Old May 15, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GateCrasher,May 15 2009, 03:10 PM
Article from Gasoline Chemist: http://vettenet.org/octane.html

The Only benefit from Shells new formula is to sell more gas!
Great article there! It does not say anywhere in it though that Shells new formula is to sell more gas, but it does state what I pretty much alluded to before. His idea of switching gasolines every 5000 miles is completely new to me and sounds interesting.
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Old May 15, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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^^I think the article was written Pre-Shell nitrogen gas.

I usually switch brands (Shell - Chevron - Mobil) every 2 or 3 tanks. Hopefully that does trick!
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Old May 15, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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About 6 or 7 years ago, Shell introduced a new gas additive in Canada and did a trial rollout in Loisville, KY. Their additive (a friction modifying formula advertising better mileage) damaged cars' fuel systems, and they were sued. They had to rush and pull it from those the markets. Then they rollout V-Power in their premium only that still uses an old technology just at a higher dosage to help keep intake systems clean, but it contributes to combustion chamber deposits. Now they introduce another old technology amine additive modified in a way that has more nitrogen which they advertise ("hydrogen, nitrogen, what's the difference, it's all good green stuff"). In all this time, their additives have never been the equal of Chevron's (who invented the "nitrogen-enriched" amine-based fuel additive), especially in regular and mid-grade. Amoco used to have a proprietary low sulfur premium that really did reduce SOx, but new EPA regulations have reduced everyone's sulfur levels to that level.

I'm not a fan of Shell due to their dishonesty, but using them won't kill your sled.
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Old May 15, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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Remember too that "Top Teir" is a club, not a certification. I'm willing to bet BP and Marathon make a quality product with good additives, but they aren't on the list.
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Old May 16, 2009 | 04:58 AM
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Ethanol in our gasoline is yet another government scam and really isn't all that great for our cars for those of us who plan on keeping them around awhile... A local mechanic who seems to know what he is talking about is a believer in Amzoil products (I'm sold on their oil)... he advocates the use of adding about an ounce of a synthetic two stroke outboard motor oil to five gallons of gasoline to counteract some of the long term effects of running alcohol in our cars... I've been doing it in my old Toyota pickup truck and, maybe I'm easily hyped, but the milage seems to be up a bit and theoretically, I'm providing some protection to the fuel pump, injectors, and some of the plastic/rubber components. Anyone else heard of this idea?

Shell was once rated as one to the top tier gasolines... I try to stick with Shell or Chevron....
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