Not falling in love with new '06
05-20-2016, 12:46 PM
#11
My 04 came with Michelin PSS as well, and I felt the exact same way about the steering. I recently changed to Hankook RS3, which so far is inspiring a lot more confidence. The car's feedback isn't fundamentally changed (EPS doesn't help), but it is much more responsive and predictable. Ride quality and noise hasn't suffered that much either.
Levi
05-20-2016, 01:11 PM
#13
The PSS is a multi-compound tire. Unless you push hard, you're driving on the hard inner/middle compound and the tire isn't going to feel hooked up or responsive to steering inputs. The reason it feel more responsive when you're slamming through a hairpin is you're rolling the tire into the soft, grippy outer section. When the weight of the car is on the performance section of the tread, it will be a lot more responsive to steering corrections.
That's why going to a uniform-compound tire like the RS-3 or any of the extreme performance tires will make the car feel so much more responsive in situations where the tire isn't already fully loaded with g-forces. But of course you give up the quieter, longer-lasting aspect of the PSS's hard inner compound.
That's why going to a uniform-compound tire like the RS-3 or any of the extreme performance tires will make the car feel so much more responsive in situations where the tire isn't already fully loaded with g-forces. But of course you give up the quieter, longer-lasting aspect of the PSS's hard inner compound.
05-20-2016, 03:23 PM
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PSS is a compromise tire. Once you go to Extreme summer tires you'll never go back. The S deserves the best tire. I had stock ap2 re050 that tire is old and skinny. Slapped on re-71r. I'm in love. The car doesn't really need much except maintenance. The car just wants to dance.
05-20-2016, 03:48 PM
#17
Steering feel doesn't exist as we have EPS, it's pretty numb. Not much you can do about that, I think the CR steering rack stiffeners help out a bit with that, but not much.
05-20-2016, 03:57 PM
#18
The PSS is not a "compromise tire". ---- it's the top choice in the Max Performance category which is what our cars came from the factory equipped with. On Tire Rack, the PSS ranks #1 out of 23 Max Performance tires available.
There is another category designed to mazimize dry traction at the expense of road noise and wet weather traction---Extreme Performance --the RE-71R is in this category. It isn't any better "overall" than the PSS or any other tire---it is no doubt better at dry traction if that is your #1 criteria for tire selection for your S2000.
The RE-71R ranks 5th out of the 10 available Extreme Performamce tires in owner's reviews
Here's TireRack's review of the RE-71R--they love the tire for it's handling but clearly point out it's focus is dry traction at the expense of wet weather traction and ride comfort.....(they also point out in their review that the RE-71R is one of the two noisiest tires they've ever tested on the road--- compared them to the sounds of a wheel bearing going bad and "sticky tape being pulled off plastic"....)
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=202
Here's the PSS reviee----
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=174
So, both are great tires--one is not "better" than the other----just depends on what your priorities are for tires for your S2000
There is another category designed to mazimize dry traction at the expense of road noise and wet weather traction---Extreme Performance --the RE-71R is in this category. It isn't any better "overall" than the PSS or any other tire---it is no doubt better at dry traction if that is your #1 criteria for tire selection for your S2000.
The RE-71R ranks 5th out of the 10 available Extreme Performamce tires in owner's reviews
Here's TireRack's review of the RE-71R--they love the tire for it's handling but clearly point out it's focus is dry traction at the expense of wet weather traction and ride comfort.....(they also point out in their review that the RE-71R is one of the two noisiest tires they've ever tested on the road--- compared them to the sounds of a wheel bearing going bad and "sticky tape being pulled off plastic"....)
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=202
Here's the PSS reviee----
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=174
So, both are great tires--one is not "better" than the other----just depends on what your priorities are for tires for your S2000
05-20-2016, 04:33 PM
#20
Thanks Sylvan, I will probably ad a flashpro down the road if this "relationship" works out. I will post my aligment specs when I get home. Off the top of my head I can remember only the camber and caster:
Front: left = -0.5 right = -0.6
Rear: -1.5 both sides
Caster 6.4 both sides
I will post the rest when I get home from work this pm.
FRSKLLR, I checked out the Whiteline swaybar and read some threads on the topic. That looks like a good plan. Thanks.
I should add that I really like the ride quality of the stock suspension and it is very compatibale with our varying road surfaces in WV. Plus I don't feel like there is any particular charicterstic I want to tame with lowering springs like nose dive or anything.
Front: left = -0.5 right = -0.6
Rear: -1.5 both sides
Caster 6.4 both sides
I will post the rest when I get home from work this pm.
FRSKLLR, I checked out the Whiteline swaybar and read some threads on the topic. That looks like a good plan. Thanks.
I should add that I really like the ride quality of the stock suspension and it is very compatibale with our varying road surfaces in WV. Plus I don't feel like there is any particular charicterstic I want to tame with lowering springs like nose dive or anything.
Toe: left front = 0 right front = -0.01
left rear = 0.17 right rear 0.15