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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by oscar_driver,Apr 1 2008, 08:07 AM
maybe he was also like many of us:

Even me i was going to trade my sweet -looking like new- 02' 35K miles for the "NEW CR" with the hopes of 200l bs less and extra 30HP @ least ... what a joke .. i think that is what happened with Tony Swan ,, that BTW has more experience with S2k than many of us ... maybe he is tired of Honda ,,, when Porsche needs to catch up they throw 30-40HP ... HP war is almost over and HONDA NEVER JOINED ... personally i'll get my NA2 NSX in like 3 more years and i'm done with honda ,,, the only decent car from honda right now it's the MDX (decent on the sense that is up to the competition) all honda cars are great ... they just don't have no more that "soul" that many of us found once (i've owned 2 preludes 1 accord V6 myself) ... i think that Tony Swan was just trying to say how frustrated is to have expectations ...

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Heart broken over what? Where exactly was the extra 30hp going to come from? Everyone knew that the CR wasn't getting a new engine and Honda can't SAFELY/Reliably get more power out out of the F22 so excuse me but this HP thing is just noise!

Honda has never participated in the HP wars. Honda usually has the lowest HP in whatever class their competing in.

I was never a Honda fan because of this. They've never been known for making high hp high tq cars. People keep talking about the Honda cars of the 90's but those weren't class leading hp cars either.

Please explain why people who love high hp buy Hondas then complain that they don't have enough hp

I mean didn't they know this before they bought the car

Your talking about hp and yet you want an NA2 NSX? All people do is complain about those cars not having enough HP
Old Apr 1, 2008 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Spr2,Apr 1 2008, 05:47 AM
Heart broken over what? Where exactly was the extra 30hp going to come from? Everyone knew that the CR wasn't getting a new engine and Honda can't SAFELY/Reliably get more power out out of the F22 so excuse me but this HP thing is just noise!

Honda has never participated in the HP wars. Honda usually has the lowest HP in whatever class their competing in.

I was never a Honda fan because of this. They've never been known for making high hp high tq cars. People keep talking about the Honda cars of the 90's but those weren't class leading hp cars either.

Please explain why people who love high hp buy Hondas then complain that they don't have enough hp

I mean didn't they know this before they bought the car

Your talking about hp and yet you want an NA2 NSX? All people do is complain about those cars not having enough HP
It is a small portion of people like me (like 90% maybe) that wouldn't mind to have a small FI unit that can run reliable (such RDX) from factory in our S2k's that could offer a extra not out of this world 30-40HP ... enough to make us keep up with Z4M's or Boxters S's... remember the name was "Club RACER" ... with such hype they announced it was coming "to a race track near you" .. to be in the end what we all know, CR's are great S2k's maybe the best ever offered .. but still, there are faster S2k's with almost NO mods that can go as fast as the "CR" , the CR should be called "S200 NE" .. "not expectations" .. get my point?

Not gonna lie to you i went still to Honda here in Pompano to check one .. it looks good (minus rear wing) but still it wasn't enough to convince me to trade mine (so rare this CR is that it was locked so you can't even seat unless you are serious about, while i can go to a porsche dealer and test drive one) ... that broke my heart ,,,, and yes the NSX guys are getting Audi R8's and went to P-cars or Gallardos since Acura/Honda never gave them what they were waiting for 15 years ... i would get a NSX b/c is my dream car, not b/c makes tons of power .. but that i am expecting since NSx's are gone ....

For the CR as a example .. It's like you own a home, then your parents come and say, hey Son, go away 1 month and we will make a super reform for you, then you come back next month and see a new door and new blinds .. that's all, while you were expecting a new kitchen new paint new AC and more improvements .. see my point?

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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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--my apologies for hijacking this thread --- i am done, my point was about expectations .. sorry i am done
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tlr9,Mar 23 2008, 08:56 PM
You know, I've had that banner since I was 11 years old. Animal Chin.....man, those were the days!!

Thanks for the compliment
You're welcome. Thanks for bringing back some good memories. Those most certainly were the days.

Remember that dope ass double half pipe with the skate through at the end of the film? I wanted to drop in on that thing so bad.

I'm going to have scour ebay now and see if I can't find me one of those banners. I'd love to have one.
Old Apr 2, 2008 | 06:24 AM
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Wow, thanks for contributing to this topic!

The CR bashing threads are elsewhere. Please don't get this one locked!
Old Apr 2, 2008 | 06:44 AM
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08' Rio Yellow S2K CR $27,974
Old Apr 2, 2008 | 07:04 AM
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[QUOTE=Spr2,Apr 1 2008, 05:47 AM]Honda has never participated in the HP wars.
Old Apr 2, 2008 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Ruprecht,Apr 2 2008, 10:04 AM
True. Except for the S when it came out. The S was (past tense) different.

Let's go back to 1999 and remind ourselves what it meant to have an S:

39 more HP than the 1999 Porsche Boxter
47 more HP than the 1999 BMW Z3
60 more HP than the 2000 Audi TT
30 more HP than the 1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T Spyder


Now, lets step forward to present day:

5 less HP than the 2008 Porsche Boxter
55 less HP than the 2008 Boxter S
10 less HP than the 2008 Audi TT 3.2
15 less HP than the 2008 BMW Z4
90 less HP than the 2008 BMW Z4 M
20 less HP than the 2008 Mitsubishi GT Spyder

The heartbreak is watching a first string car falling behind over the years, then getting excited about a new release, then getting the CR.
Your basing this solely on hp numbers which is kinda dumb as the S2K still outperforms the More powerful Audi TT , the Z4 , the Base Boxster and the Mitsu. Also it's still cheaper than the Z4 , Boxtser and Audi.

Even all these years later it's still less expensive even in CR form.
Old Apr 2, 2008 | 07:30 AM
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[QUOTE=Spr2,Apr 2 2008, 07:25 AM] Your basing this solely on hp numbers which is kinda dumb as the S2K still outperforms the More powerful Audi TT , the Z4 , the Base Boxster and the Mitsu.
Old Apr 2, 2008 | 07:55 AM
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All this bickering about how the CR should have been more powerful/lighter is really pointless. It's already in production and Honda has a mind of its own so nothing is going to change

Personally, I don't buy cars based on how fast they go 0-60, 0-100, 1/4 mile etc. I buy cars for the DRIVING EXPERIENCE. Isn't that a refreshing thought?!??

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