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[QUOTE=audiophile,May 25 2005, 08:41 PM] I am in the "biz" and am well versed on this BS.
I stand by my comments that in the real world in most "normal" cases, it will make NO difference. I have been servicing cars for long enough not to let the techno-babble impact me. If you feel better running $8/qt oil because in a lab its better, be my guest, but I am telling you in the real world it won't matter.
The exception would
I stand by my comments that in the real world in most "normal" cases, it will make NO difference. I have been servicing cars for long enough not to let the techno-babble impact me. If you feel better running $8/qt oil because in a lab its better, be my guest, but I am telling you in the real world it won't matter.
The exception would
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Amsoil 10-30W.
I don't know about all the technicalities of the differences between oil, but I do know that synthetics are considered much better for performance vehicles and motorcycles. And being that I take my car to a place that'll uses Amsoil in the oilchange for $41 and 7500 mile oil life, I had to take advantage. It certainly can't hurt eh?
I don't know about all the technicalities of the differences between oil, but I do know that synthetics are considered much better for performance vehicles and motorcycles. And being that I take my car to a place that'll uses Amsoil in the oilchange for $41 and 7500 mile oil life, I had to take advantage. It certainly can't hurt eh?
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Originally Posted by audiophile,May 25 2005, 02:34 PM
I can't believe how many people think that running super oil will make any difference. I am all for running a name brand oil, so in the event of the unexpected you have a large company backing it. However, the differences between Mobil, Valvoline, Amsoil, Pennzoil or Redline will be impossible to detect in most conditions. The only time I would advice running a synthetic oil is if the car is FI, where the oil can see extreme's unlike a NA motor. For most stock(or near stock) cars, there will be zero benefits to running designer oil- cars are built much better now then 20 years ago and the engines are seldom what causes them to go to the salvage yard.
So if you really want to "connect" with your car or you fall prey to the placebo effect, run fancy, expensive oil. If you have a level head on your shoulders and don't buy into gimmicks, just ran any major brand conventional motor oil and use what you save to take your GF/wife out to dinner(it may take a few oil changes)- but you'll get more reward out of that then you will from running super oil.
So if you really want to "connect" with your car or you fall prey to the placebo effect, run fancy, expensive oil. If you have a level head on your shoulders and don't buy into gimmicks, just ran any major brand conventional motor oil and use what you save to take your GF/wife out to dinner(it may take a few oil changes)- but you'll get more reward out of that then you will from running super oil.
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,May 25 2005, 06:44 PM
again if you feel you know more than a tribologist who has been doing his job for years and owns an S2000, please explain to me your credentials and the tests you've done. you obviously didn't read any of the oil journals. nor have you looked at any of the tests offered. "techno-babble". is that what you call it when someone knows more about a subject than you and can offer hard proof contradicting what you say? just seems a bit childish to me. even I can admit when I'm wrong. 
by the way, I use valvolline synthetic which is about $4 a quart. not 8.
and if you want to talk about money alone, valvoline synthetic can go a LOT longer than conventional dino oil between changes. so actually, it's CHEAPER to use the valvoline since you can change it much less often than regular.
The S2000 is hardly a "normal" car.
tribologist definition:
The branch of science and technology that deals with the study of friction, wear, lubrication, specializing in engines.
by the way, I use valvolline synthetic which is about $4 a quart. not 8.
and if you want to talk about money alone, valvoline synthetic can go a LOT longer than conventional dino oil between changes. so actually, it's CHEAPER to use the valvoline since you can change it much less often than regular.The S2000 is hardly a "normal" car.
tribologist definition:
The branch of science and technology that deals with the study of friction, wear, lubrication, specializing in engines.
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,May 25 2005, 07:44 PM
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Valvoline synthetic can go a LOT longer than conventional dino oil between changes.
Valvoline synthetic can go a LOT longer than conventional dino oil between changes.
snake187, Honda of Japan and Mobil both recommended Mobil1 5W40 for S2000 of all model years.