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"Honda S2000. Think back to when you were young. Remember how difficult it was to sit still and not fidget? Some people never grow out of that habit and it would seem they grow up to work for Honda. The Japanese company's engineering department must consist entirely of people with compulsively twitchy fingers.
The S2000 is proof of that. A little more than two years after its launch, the two-seater still enjoys a four-month waiting list and none of its competitors has been overhauled. However, that hasn't prevented Honda from finding new ways of perfecting its roadster by adding alterations both on the outside and under the skin. The question is: Can any of Honda's engineers tell new and old apart? Well, they probably can - but the rest of us might struggle.
On the exterior, the most noticeable update is a glass rear screen, which replaces the cloudy, plastic version of the launch model. Although it doesn't zip out, the new item includes a heating element for easy demisting. More importantly, it remains the world's fastest electric hood.
Simply undo two latches and the motors are capable of replacing canvas with open sky in only six seconds. The alloy wheels have been restyled, although they retain the same size and basic design, while chrome rings have been added around the brake lights. Two exterior colours - Indy Yellow Pearl and Nurburgring Blue Metallic - have been added to the four currently available. Opt for the latter shade and you get a blue hood, too. You can even have an interior to match: Honda now offers a blue version in addition to red and black.
Other than those details, you'll need the detective skills of Sherlock Holmes to discern the new parts. For example, there's a tiny mesh door pocket, plus silver trim around the instruments and gearlever surround. The shifter itself now has a leather cover - an improvement over the old metal version, which was particularly cold to the touch on winter mornings. We also criticised the position of the headlight washer switch. It sat on the transmission tunnel where your elbow brushed it during gearchanges so, if you had the roof down, you got an unexpected shower. Sensibly, the offending switch has been moved to the dash, but in its place is a rather unattractive plate.
Happily, however, the changes have done nothing to spoil the lovely interior architecture. The S2000 has the most driver-oriented cabin in its class - you barely even have to lift a finger off the wheel to adjust the heating or stereo. That noted, there's more storage space in a Lotus Elise, and the seats are set too high behind the non-adjustable steering wheel. At least the flip-up wind deflector between the rollover bars is effective.
That's just as well because the S2000 is capable of an astonishing turn of speed. Wisely the 2.0-litre engine, gearbox and drivetrain have been left well alone. With 237bhp at 8,300rpm, this normally aspirated engine thrives on revs. Acceleration goes from meaningful to eye-popping as you pass 6,000rpm, and there's still 3,000rpm to play with before the limiter cuts in. We recorded a 0-60mph time of only 5.6 seconds, and Honda claims a maximum speed of 150mph.
Even better, the previously snappy dynamics have been adjusted to make the car more stable. Increased spring rates, softer anti-roll bars and recalibrated dampers combine to make the S2000 an even better - and more predictable - driver's car. That noted, the steering is still not as rewarding as the Porsche Boxster's. That may yet be addressed, though: Honda is thought to be preparing a few modifications for a limited-edition model. Sounds like those engineers are restless already...
Great looks, sensational engine, the world's best manual six-speed gearbox - there wasn't much wrong with the original. But that hasn't stopped Honda fiddling around with the S2000. Bar the improved dynamics and glass rear screen, most changes are minor, but should ensure interest in the model remains high. "
They didn't get everything right - like how the MY02 tranny has indeed been tinkered with too. I thought the mentioning of better steering in an up coming special edition was interesting...could they have meant the type-V?
"Honda S2000. Think back to when you were young. Remember how difficult it was to sit still and not fidget? Some people never grow out of that habit and it would seem they grow up to work for Honda. The Japanese company's engineering department must consist entirely of people with compulsively twitchy fingers.
The S2000 is proof of that. A little more than two years after its launch, the two-seater still enjoys a four-month waiting list and none of its competitors has been overhauled. However, that hasn't prevented Honda from finding new ways of perfecting its roadster by adding alterations both on the outside and under the skin. The question is: Can any of Honda's engineers tell new and old apart? Well, they probably can - but the rest of us might struggle.
On the exterior, the most noticeable update is a glass rear screen, which replaces the cloudy, plastic version of the launch model. Although it doesn't zip out, the new item includes a heating element for easy demisting. More importantly, it remains the world's fastest electric hood.
Simply undo two latches and the motors are capable of replacing canvas with open sky in only six seconds. The alloy wheels have been restyled, although they retain the same size and basic design, while chrome rings have been added around the brake lights. Two exterior colours - Indy Yellow Pearl and Nurburgring Blue Metallic - have been added to the four currently available. Opt for the latter shade and you get a blue hood, too. You can even have an interior to match: Honda now offers a blue version in addition to red and black.
Other than those details, you'll need the detective skills of Sherlock Holmes to discern the new parts. For example, there's a tiny mesh door pocket, plus silver trim around the instruments and gearlever surround. The shifter itself now has a leather cover - an improvement over the old metal version, which was particularly cold to the touch on winter mornings. We also criticised the position of the headlight washer switch. It sat on the transmission tunnel where your elbow brushed it during gearchanges so, if you had the roof down, you got an unexpected shower. Sensibly, the offending switch has been moved to the dash, but in its place is a rather unattractive plate.
Happily, however, the changes have done nothing to spoil the lovely interior architecture. The S2000 has the most driver-oriented cabin in its class - you barely even have to lift a finger off the wheel to adjust the heating or stereo. That noted, there's more storage space in a Lotus Elise, and the seats are set too high behind the non-adjustable steering wheel. At least the flip-up wind deflector between the rollover bars is effective.
That's just as well because the S2000 is capable of an astonishing turn of speed. Wisely the 2.0-litre engine, gearbox and drivetrain have been left well alone. With 237bhp at 8,300rpm, this normally aspirated engine thrives on revs. Acceleration goes from meaningful to eye-popping as you pass 6,000rpm, and there's still 3,000rpm to play with before the limiter cuts in. We recorded a 0-60mph time of only 5.6 seconds, and Honda claims a maximum speed of 150mph.
Even better, the previously snappy dynamics have been adjusted to make the car more stable. Increased spring rates, softer anti-roll bars and recalibrated dampers combine to make the S2000 an even better - and more predictable - driver's car. That noted, the steering is still not as rewarding as the Porsche Boxster's. That may yet be addressed, though: Honda is thought to be preparing a few modifications for a limited-edition model. Sounds like those engineers are restless already...
Great looks, sensational engine, the world's best manual six-speed gearbox - there wasn't much wrong with the original. But that hasn't stopped Honda fiddling around with the S2000. Bar the improved dynamics and glass rear screen, most changes are minor, but should ensure interest in the model remains high. "
They didn't get everything right - like how the MY02 tranny has indeed been tinkered with too. I thought the mentioning of better steering in an up coming special edition was interesting...could they have meant the type-V?
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the previously snappy dynamics have been adjusted to make the car more stable. Increased spring rates, softer anti-roll bars and recalibrated dampers combine to make the S2000 an even better - and more predictable - driver's car.
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Originally posted by jiro
Yes, I think they're refering to the "Variable Gear Ratio Steering" system. One of these days I'd like to try how it feels.
Yes, I think they're refering to the "Variable Gear Ratio Steering" system. One of these days I'd like to try how it feels.
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Originally posted by bmarshall
No. Honda UK have been thinking about a Mugen model. They have some prototypes, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. Too high a cost for the gain - putting the car up against more expensive competition. They were just adding some Mugen parts to stock S2000s befre selling them. (Don't know exactly what.)
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No. Honda UK have been thinking about a Mugen model. They have some prototypes, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. Too high a cost for the gain - putting the car up against more expensive competition. They were just adding some Mugen parts to stock S2000s befre selling them. (Don't know exactly what.)
-Brian.
I'm wondering because there has been talk of new suspension settings for model year 2002 but only in the UK, not elsewhere. Does Honda UK do that after the S2000 arrives from Japan?
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I would like our UK compadrates to comment on this actually. From an Aust standpoint, our ragmags have commented that there were supposed suspension changes in the pipeline.
You have to understand that in has been in the UK and Australia where the motoring journos have NOT been singing the praises of hte s2k. In Aust, it has consistently been coming up wiht poor performance figures (accelertn etc), however, more importantly, it has ben critised heavily for its steering and "jumpy" handling.
It would seem that this "jumpy" handling is mainly due the bumpsteer issue that has been discussed in teh past. THis has been a huge gripe here, and given the recent release of the mx5/miata turbo, the s2k is performing "badly" in the whole picture of things.
It does not suprise me that HOnda are relasing revisions for the UK or Aust market to cure/mask the bumpsteer issue - especially given that we have pretty bumpy roads here.
It would be interesting if someone could confirm what the changes are:
- are there thinner rollbars?
- revised damper/springs?
- or just alignment changes
You have to understand that in has been in the UK and Australia where the motoring journos have NOT been singing the praises of hte s2k. In Aust, it has consistently been coming up wiht poor performance figures (accelertn etc), however, more importantly, it has ben critised heavily for its steering and "jumpy" handling.
It would seem that this "jumpy" handling is mainly due the bumpsteer issue that has been discussed in teh past. THis has been a huge gripe here, and given the recent release of the mx5/miata turbo, the s2k is performing "badly" in the whole picture of things.
It does not suprise me that HOnda are relasing revisions for the UK or Aust market to cure/mask the bumpsteer issue - especially given that we have pretty bumpy roads here.
It would be interesting if someone could confirm what the changes are:
- are there thinner rollbars?
- revised damper/springs?
- or just alignment changes