because the u.s. dealers get paid by honda-japan... ??

honda must know about this fix- so, why else wouldnt they tell us? (i dont know why they handled it this way either- but i dont agree with the way it was handled... and as marks2k indicated, if it was an acura- it probably would have been handled properly!)

 

Umm, Honda just told you that they didn't know about it. You think they would rather 2nd and 3rd source suppliers and replace regulators for broken switches when they could have just added a few notes to their monthly service newsletter?

Try to keep it real. Honda doesn't make the switches in case you haven't guessed. They buy them from someone who does. If the supplier doesn't tell them that there is a reset function or that information doesn't pass down to the service folks at AHM then it doesn't go out the consumer either.

The switch is probably used on another vehicle as well and someone probably tried a reset method from another model to discover they are the same. The RSX for example has a switch programming function which is much as the one described here.

I also think that if you don't already know that Honda and Acura are the same company then you really should. They are 2 brands of the same company and the same employees. The service engineer for the S2000, woodwork, is also a service engineer for the Acura NSX. Get it?

Dont spout, it's not pretty.

 

Very interesting! I have never had the problem, and I also have never put anything in the back window. Good work, sounds like you have it figured!

 

Nope, it's just a part fault. Has nothing to do with that.

 

Nope, that's not the cause. I have a 2002 with the glass rear window and have never put anything in the top. My window started malfunctioning two months after I got my car and didn't stop until the dealer put in a new window regulator last month under warranty.

 

 

Hey cthree,

I was just joking about the Honda/Acura thing, that's what the was for.

I know Woodwork and he's helped me on many occasions. The fact that he's posting on the board indicates to me that AHM really didn't know about this problem. I don't really have any issues with them not notifying us. I think if this is really the solution, AHM will definitely let us know.

 

I just tried the reset and it worked!!!

But I was thinking... In the manual it states ."Do not lower or raise the top while the engine is running.: Anyone else think that raising or lowering the top when the engine is running could possibly throw the window regulator out of whack?

I know I'm going out on a limb, but the reset procedure requires that the engine is running to do the reset and maybe raising or lowering the top with the engine running can possibly cause these problems. My theory is if the owner starts the car and starts to lower the top but pauses, that may be enough to throw the regulator out of whack and keep auto-down from functioning. Maybe Honda has a legit reason (other than legal or liability) to have the engine off when operating the top.

It's really weird that some S2000 owners have auto-down problems, some who get the problem fixed have the problem resurface, and the reset has worked really well to fix the problem.

 

I'm glad to hear that this fix seems to help everyone out. I'm just passing along info of what I was told and what might fix it. I am just trying to figure out what could be causing the auto scroll to stop working, only thing i could figure out was that I would pause while putting the top down to put the tube, maybe thats wats causing, anyways I'm happy now, and I agree with you guys something so easy to fix however Honda would rather waste 2-3 hours of labor and money spent on a regulator than just resetting this. and I bet you that honda service men don't even know about this reset procedure.

Glad this helps!

 

I too am SOOOO tired of the broken record sentiment of "why couldn't our car have been an Acura." Even if MarkS2K made it clear he was being sarcastic, there are too many who think that if the S2000 were badged as an Acura, all our service issues would magically disappear. This is simply NOT true. I have much better service from my Honda dealer than from my Acura dealer, the Acura technicians are no more or no less accomplished at fixing automobiles, they just work on different models, that is the only difference. When you find a service department that does the job right, stick with them, regardless of who they are.