when i do my rev matching

i usually just clutch in and downshift to a lower gear, while clutch still pressed in, i blip the throttle to match rev and clutch out and drive??

i never put it in neutral??.... is this the same thing? what is wrong here?? it's more easier and i like how the sound it creates....

BTW MY 04's have triple synchros correct?

 

Only for third gear. Doubles in 1, 2, 4, singles in 5, 6, if I recall correctly.

Edit: I just realized - the triples in third gear are likely for this very situation, downshifting to third, which is generally the most useful downshift gear.

Except that, for U.S. 2.2L cars, fourth gear is the most useful downshift gear, since third tops out a little early. A rare case of the Honda engineers missing a bet? Or maybe doubles are sufficient in fourth, anyway, since one is only skipping one gear on the downshift.

 

Once you place the shifter in neutral you have to release the clutch before you rev it up to the proper RPM. If you keep the clutch down, that doesn't do anything except perhaps the pretty sound. The higher the RPM in the lower gear is going to be right after the gear shift, the more important it is to use the technique.
Tonino.

 

Yes it does. On a synchronized tranny, the synchros match the input shaft to the output shaft and the rev blip matches the engine to the input shaft.

On a non-sychro tranny, you have to double clutch so that you match the input shaft to the output shaft manually.

 

It's placing the shifter into 1st before coming to a complete stop the has caused alot of problems for people, 2nd OK.... First, no good.

 

have you owned your car since 00?

 

no need to double clutch on modern cars....though i guess you can argue that it puts less strain on the synchros

 

thanks for all the inputs. guess i was just worrying a bit for nothing. Useful info btw.

1a-race, if you are asking ME if i've owned the car since 00, no, i haven't. Just brought if home saturday but haven't driven it. Can't get tags till I have a title, and its somewhere in the mail coming from honda.

 

I realize that one does not NEED to double clutch, but I do if I am moving to a non-sequential gear (ie 3-5 or 4-2).

I also double clutch when upshifting from 1-2 and 2-3 when doing relaxed driving. Yes the syncros SHOULD take care of matching, but they do wear out (2 and 3 are the syncros that take the most punishment). I double clutch in relaxed driving so I don't have to in aggressive driving. I want to ensure the syncros last the life of the car.

 

There's time when it calls for double clutching, and there's time for heel and toe. Your method for double clutching is fine, but i have to say no on the rev matching while the clutch is down is bad. If you think of it...that's how heel and toe works. And for the pros, they can do the heel and toe in less than a second. The clutch is down the entire process.