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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 07:47 AM
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When I bought my s2k new back in 06 i had it shipped to my house. it's been parked in the garage ever since with 0 miles on it. dont want it to lose its value you know.

but really, half the cars i see on the road that have been modded look like ass to me. it all just goes back to the 'whatever floats your boat'. we all have our personal opinions. shit, you prolly have something on your car that 'erks' the guy next to you.
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 07:59 AM
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Both sides of this discussion have gone over the edge. I've seen rolled fenders that were done very well which I do not think ruin the appearance of the car. Likewise, I have seen ham-fisted efforts that look appalling. To chastise all for the deeds of some is foolish. It is equally foolish to state that it's magically possible to alter the shape of the bodywork without its being visible. It all boils down to aesthetic values and functional demands.

The former is quite personal. I'm all for personal expression. If the result of whatever one chooses to do to his/her car pleases that individual's aesthetic sensibilities, then who am I to be critical? I take a sightly different view on the functional aspects of mods. My personal view is that the use of the car should dictate its suspension setup. It doesn't make sense (to me) for someone to reduce the suspension height and travel radically on a street car. Who lives where all of the roads are perfect and entry/exit angles are always gentle?

I also shake my head when wheel/suspension alterations result in negative camber. The contact patch is small enough without reducing it further. I want my suspension to keep as much tire in contact with the road as possible at all times.

My personal preference for the S2K is as Honda built it. I think it's a gorgeous car. I do realize, however, that my opinion is just that. It doesn't make me right. I also prefer the functional aspects of the car to remain as Honda engineered them. That engineering is aimed at control in a broad range of conditions - weather and road. I have a CR, which is Honda's idea of track-tuning a road car. As such, it really isn't the ideal setup for the track, but it is still ideal for the road. That's where I drive my car, so that's what matters to me.

I could be wrong, but I think the greatest danger posed by the S2000 is misuse of purposeful engineering. As the mercury shrinks in our thermometers, we must be mindful of the impact that has on our super-grippy summer tires - they're worse than not so super-grippy anymore. A car's suspension does a far more important job than keep your spine intact, it also fights to keep your contact patch intact. I have no doubt that the suspension in my car can be improved. I also have no doubt that it can be ruined. As it is, it is fine - I trust the engineers who designed it and it was designed to work for aggressive driving.

For me, the car is a delight to drive in stock form. For me, the car is a delight to behold in stock form. If I bought it for a track car, I would have different priorities.
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyC
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im not knocking it by any means.
i just done understand the obsession with agressive fits or flushed fit.
sure it looks a little better when its flushed but i just dont get it..

then theres the guys who just go completely overboard with it..
i cant figure out how your car looking like its sitting on broken axles looks "good"...

i guess its like the deep dish wheels trend of the 90s..

never really got that either.
Not sure what's so hard to grasp, you've answered it yourself. It looks better to the owner, so they do it. You think it looks better but don't want to roll your fenders - you don't do it.

it does look a little better. i get that.
what i dont get it is, why potentially RUIN your car to get that little bit of "flush"?

either get wheels that will fit without modification or dont get any at all.

whats gonna look retarded is when you sell your car and put the stocks back on to huge gaps in the fenders...
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That's why you get the experts to do it

The kids that use baseball bats and just give it a go are the ones that ruin their cars - and I've seen more than a few done this way. Using a professional fender roller that's built solely for that purpose yields good results.

It won't look retarded if you go back to stock (depending on how much you roll) Mine are rolled just enough to pinch the lip of the fender upwards and outwards to provide a bit more room. You really would not be able to tell they're rolled at all.

I agree the people that go to the extreme are a little silly, and think those super low offset wheels with crazy camber are dumb. But to each their own.
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by aCab
People care because?
Because people like to troll.

I hate when people bring up "it ruins the handling aspects..." blah blah blah how many people actually drive their s2k to it's potential? Probably only about 2%. Get over it. People can do whatever they want and if it bugs you so much say it to these people's faces when you see these cars out there
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by aCab
People care because?
You replied because?

1. It's a forum, people talk you know? Hence the name "Forum".

2. If people can post things that might seem silly to others. The opposite question can be asked. Why?

3. Why not care? Time could be better spent else where, but we're here. So why not?

Back On topic. I don't mind what people do to their cars. I don't understand it, but I don't have to. I think it takes all types to make scene complete. Variety makes us all better, our cars better, and the scene better. All of it teaches us tolerance, which is in small supply in the world around us. 1
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:11 AM
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Wow, so serious all of a sudden.
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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It's like saying "I don't like how my neighbor painted the walls of his bathroom". You bitching about it isn't going to change a thing and just makes you look insensitive to different types of automotive enthusiasts. I drive an S and love it, and absolutely hate NASCAR and drag racing, but I sill have an appreciation for them and don't think those that are involved in them are stupid, ignorant, etc. I can still have a better conversation with them than with someone who isn't into cars at all. Think about it... We're a community here.
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:34 AM
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I don't think the "painted bathroom walls" is a proper analogy. It think it's more like, I don't like how my neighbor cut a hole in his garage door, even though my neighbor thinks it makes his house look "mad tyte."
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RedCelica
I don't think the "painted bathroom walls" is a proper analogy. It think it's more like, I don't like how my neighbor cut a hole in his garage door, even though my neighbor thinks it makes his house look "mad tyte."
I think you're confusing this for the vented OEM hood thread.
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:44 AM
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Both applicable!



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