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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Driven,Oct 14 2010, 08:35 AM
depends, was it a 10-speed? unicycle?
FWD unicycle, I'm pretty sure.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by al4t1gbundy,Oct 14 2010, 09:56 AM
Hey sorry to cut you off OP, but I had to get over to the right lane. My exit was coming up and you were in the middle of not going fast enough and going too fast for me to pass safely.

Next time please stop thumping that raver music too. It kills the trees.
hey man, no need to bring raver music into this.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by zachismisitok,Oct 14 2010, 10:01 AM
FWD unicycle, I'm pretty sure.
well, there's your problem... RWD and AWD unicycles are far more stable. AWD is a bit of a cheater setup though, which is why F1 doesn't use AWD unicycles.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by st4rk,Oct 14 2010, 11:24 AM
Rx7s are faster than s2000s.
I do not believe you.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NDAZONE,Oct 14 2010, 04:30 PM
I do not believe you.
Uhhhh they have two highly advanced technologicaly complex sequential turbos, and weigh the same.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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Let's face it, the S2000 (esp. AP1) has always been more tail-happy than other cars. It's not mystery. A good driver can control and manage it, but it doesn't mean the car is not tail-happy. There are plenty of RWD cars that are more stable.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Steponme,Oct 14 2010, 04:36 PM
There are plenty of RWD cars that are more stable.
Like the faster rx7.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by omg516,Oct 14 2010, 01:26 AM
I thought it was obvious, but I was referring to the infamous "snap oversteer" of the s2k.
Snap oversteer isn't limited to the S2000, and it was very common on old cars. Fat, grippy tires are the most common cause of snap oversteer, and what do you think muscle cars sat on back in the day?

What most people don't understand is that there is a direct trade off between stability and responsiveness (due primarily to slip angle vs. lateral acceleration but also a variety of other factors). They praise the S2000's quick turn in and responsiveness ("go-kart like handling") but then complain about how unstable it is at the limit. They don't realize you can't have one without the other. The "tail-happy" nature of this car is not a fault, but merely a consequence of its responsiveness.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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[QUOTE=tarheel91,Oct 14 2010, 04:55 PM] Snap oversteer isn't limited to the S2000, and it was very common on old cars.
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