S2000 Thread over at NSX Prime
Good read, and sorry if this has already been posted.
http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004835.html
http://www.nsxprime.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004835.html
"And the supercharger is very cheap in comparison to the NSX."
So get in on 4IGS2000 group buy, it's a bargain compared to NSX blower.
If I sold one of the kids, maybe I'd have enough for the comptech supercharger.
So get in on 4IGS2000 group buy, it's a bargain compared to NSX blower.
If I sold one of the kids, maybe I'd have enough for the comptech supercharger.
i just love it when people always compare 2.0L 4cyl and a 3.0/3.2 V6 ...
and how people commend F20C has no torque ...
can any one find another 2.0L 4cyl engine that has 153lb/ft of torque? (seriously ...
)
and the guy who started the thread insisted on F20C having iVTEC and red lined the engine with only 320miles!
and how people commend F20C has no torque ...
can any one find another 2.0L 4cyl engine that has 153lb/ft of torque? (seriously ...
)and the guy who started the thread insisted on F20C having iVTEC and red lined the engine with only 320miles!
http://www.forbes.com/2001/07/30/0730feat....artner=carpoint
if it is SOOO great where is it on the list???
The NSX is my 2nd fav. car.. love the look of the interior, but I hate it when people compare V6, V8, V10, V12 and supercharged V6, V8, V10, and V12 to a I4 engine that is under 2000cc... Sure a s/c V12 is faster.. what do you expect!
if it is SOOO great where is it on the list???
The NSX is my 2nd fav. car.. love the look of the interior, but I hate it when people compare V6, V8, V10, V12 and supercharged V6, V8, V10, and V12 to a I4 engine that is under 2000cc... Sure a s/c V12 is faster.. what do you expect!
Read down far enough to read there was only 320 miles on this car and they were VTECing? 140 mph before break-in. ABUSE! 5500 RPM gave me 90 mph in 6th. These must've been a couple of buffoons! 70 mph with the top down, from the driver's manual? I must've missed that one. Sorry, I guess I abused mine too, as I've only had the top up while driving, only once, for about 6 miles for a drive to the Wally World. At 100+ degrees, the sun is REALLY HOT with the top down, but what the XXXX, I wear a hat!
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The original comparision of NSX and S2000 seemed pretty fair to me. S2000 does have an unusual sitting position for a sports car ... you do seem to sit about an inch too high and 1st time you sit in it it does feel like you're sitting on top of the car instead of in it ... in particular when you're coming from another sports car.
Also, the steering wheel is a tad light and does not 'communicate' anywhere as much feedback as you'd expect from a perfromance-car. Cars with no power steering offer incredible feedback and beutifull 'loadup' ... they're just a major pain when the back does step out as you really need to 'muscle' the wheel in order to get the car back in line.
The coments about no power bellow 6k rpm rings true as well. Bellow 6k rpm S2000 has only a fraction more pull then an MX5 (ie. Miata). So again, when looking for power, then the S2000 bellow 6k does not have much of it. No point saying that S2000 has a plenty of torque (or power) compared to other 2L engines as that is of no relevance for most people. By that theory a Nikki with it's 600cc engine and 50hp of power is a rocket. Most people do not care what engine there is but what the power delivery is like and the S2000 has a comperative bottom end with your average sedans and hot-hatches, not with other performance cars.
It's also true that you have to drive it like a motorbike (ie. keep the revs very high) and when driven like that it has enough power to keep some of the more reputable performance-cars honest. The gearbox/ratios serve a similar function as well (ie. to keep the revs very high). I use the motorbike analogy myself often when describing the car to a people ... S2000 really has a 2L motorbike engine fitted into a 4-wheel body. It is only when driven 'like a motorbike' that an S2000 offers perfrormance that we all love it for. Driven like that it is the closest thing to a race-car for the road (besides the Lotus Exige).
Also, the steering wheel is a tad light and does not 'communicate' anywhere as much feedback as you'd expect from a perfromance-car. Cars with no power steering offer incredible feedback and beutifull 'loadup' ... they're just a major pain when the back does step out as you really need to 'muscle' the wheel in order to get the car back in line.
The coments about no power bellow 6k rpm rings true as well. Bellow 6k rpm S2000 has only a fraction more pull then an MX5 (ie. Miata). So again, when looking for power, then the S2000 bellow 6k does not have much of it. No point saying that S2000 has a plenty of torque (or power) compared to other 2L engines as that is of no relevance for most people. By that theory a Nikki with it's 600cc engine and 50hp of power is a rocket. Most people do not care what engine there is but what the power delivery is like and the S2000 has a comperative bottom end with your average sedans and hot-hatches, not with other performance cars.
It's also true that you have to drive it like a motorbike (ie. keep the revs very high) and when driven like that it has enough power to keep some of the more reputable performance-cars honest. The gearbox/ratios serve a similar function as well (ie. to keep the revs very high). I use the motorbike analogy myself often when describing the car to a people ... S2000 really has a 2L motorbike engine fitted into a 4-wheel body. It is only when driven 'like a motorbike' that an S2000 offers perfrormance that we all love it for. Driven like that it is the closest thing to a race-car for the road (besides the Lotus Exige).
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