S2000 Vs. BMW 135 Convertible
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Originally Posted by skylightguy,Nov 3 2007, 04:29 PM
I was able to spend some time on a track in one of the new 135's.
The car is unbelievably fast. The car I was driving had a LSD in it but I don't know if that will be an option once they go on sale here. The handling in it was great but it is not a S2000 either. The motor is what makes that car.
On a wet skid pad the car was a little "twitchy" during any drift work. Very do-able just a little tricky. I would also like to add that the car has much more body roll to it than expected.
I was thorougly impressed with the car, so much that I might be looking to part company with the s2k come next year. Maybe.
The car is unbelievably fast. The car I was driving had a LSD in it but I don't know if that will be an option once they go on sale here. The handling in it was great but it is not a S2000 either. The motor is what makes that car.
On a wet skid pad the car was a little "twitchy" during any drift work. Very do-able just a little tricky. I would also like to add that the car has much more body roll to it than expected.
I was thorougly impressed with the car, so much that I might be looking to part company with the s2k come next year. Maybe.
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Comparing the one I specifically drove, the S2000.
The difference between the two in "handling" however, is not even in the same ballpark as the difference between the two comparing flat out power/torque and acceleration.
The difference between the two in "handling" however, is not even in the same ballpark as the difference between the two comparing flat out power/torque and acceleration.
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Originally Posted by skylightguy,Nov 3 2007, 05:28 PM
Comparing the one I specifically drove, the S2000.
The difference between the two in "handling" however, is not even in the same ballpark as the difference between the two comparing flat out power/torque and acceleration.
The difference between the two in "handling" however, is not even in the same ballpark as the difference between the two comparing flat out power/torque and acceleration.
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It may be faster, have more HP, and perform better than the S2k. But at the end of the day, it is still an over-engineered BMW "electrical failure". Same size, weight, and engines as the 3 series. What is the point?
Any car with an "SOS" feature is obviously not a smart buy, let alone mostly black circles in any consumer reports for the last 20 years for the whole company.
Sure people will buy them to "be cool", but when that warranty is out, watch out!!
Any car with an "SOS" feature is obviously not a smart buy, let alone mostly black circles in any consumer reports for the last 20 years for the whole company.
Sure people will buy them to "be cool", but when that warranty is out, watch out!!
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Originally Posted by bankstreet,Nov 2 2007, 02:10 PM
didn't the 335i kill an S2000 around Laguna Seca so I'd suspect a 135 would do at least the same thing.
http://www.motortrend.com/features/112_070...aguna_seca.html
http://www.motortrend.com/features/112_070...aguna_seca.html
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Originally Posted by Onehots2k,Nov 3 2007, 08:04 AM
Good Lord. The difference between the 1 and the 3 is 200lbs as per the BMWUSA.com site.
The unladen curb weight for the 135i is 3373 on the site. If you read the asterisk at the bottom of the site or a physical BMW owners manual, it says they include 75kg for the weight of the driver. You need to subtract 75kg or 150lb to get an idea of what the car really weighs. 32xx.
The unladen curb weight for the 135i is 3373 on the site. If you read the asterisk at the bottom of the site or a physical BMW owners manual, it says they include 75kg for the weight of the driver. You need to subtract 75kg or 150lb to get an idea of what the car really weighs. 32xx.
I understand light is a relative term; however, I was disappointed the to learn the weight difference between the 1 and the 3 is so small.
To put it in perspective, I've never considered the 350Z to be a "light" car and its weight figure is very close to the 1.
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The 1 needs to lose some weight, at least 200lbs. I would never get the drop top, I would go only for hardtop.
I am sure the car is fast and cool to drive. But I can never imagine it being as "raw" as our S's. The S is just too fun to rev, and has too fun of a shifter, VS. BMW's always TALL shifter. A Short shifter will be the first mod if I ever go with the 135i.
I am sure the car is fast and cool to drive. But I can never imagine it being as "raw" as our S's. The S is just too fun to rev, and has too fun of a shifter, VS. BMW's always TALL shifter. A Short shifter will be the first mod if I ever go with the 135i.
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Originally Posted by AP1FTW,Nov 3 2007, 10:48 PM
i wouldnt classify killing as being .400 seconds faster with more power and double the torque.....clearly the 335i cant handle for shit....
1) Quickness (1/4 times)
2) Power (power/ weight ratio)
3) Manuverability (slalom)
4) Speed (top speed)
I think that courses like Laguna is a good place to test a car's blend of all of these things. It's a good mixture of turns straight aways, elevation changes, etc. It really tests what a car is made of.
I have never driven on the course, however, in GT, it was the most challenging course and I used to use it to test new cars that I would make for myself to see if they were up to par with previous creations.
I believe that the key here is balance, which is what the 135 seems to 'MAYBE" have.
My main question is whether or not the 135 will beat the S2000 in #3 on my list?
