S2000 vs MX-5 - Weight
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That's not the point. The point is, if Honda continued development, it likely would have gotten better at the designs. Without real experience to build upon, its designs are just a "first stab" at doing it.
Mazda has been making Miatas for over 20 years and three product generations; Porsche has been making convertible sports cars for twice as long, and both surely have benefitted from benchmarking their old designs and improving upon them. If Honda actually got into development it would surely improve its original designs, like cutting weight without sacrificing strength in the frame.
Mazda has been making Miatas for over 20 years and three product generations; Porsche has been making convertible sports cars for twice as long, and both surely have benefitted from benchmarking their old designs and improving upon them. If Honda actually got into development it would surely improve its original designs, like cutting weight without sacrificing strength in the frame.
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Fat chicks need love too? I have to agree that the difference is mostly due to frame design with other portions coming in from various areas (material thickness, liquid hold size, etc.).
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Originally Posted by Tanuki,Aug 31 2010, 08:07 PM
Oh, it has an Aluminium engine block also which could be 100lbs differance in the motor alone.
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Seriously? They're two different cars. Nothing is the same on either one. If you were trying to figure out why an Integra GSR weighs more than an Integra RS, then you can get some real answers. But they use different engines, transmissions, driveshafts, differentials, suspensions, brakes, frames, body work, etc.
I have an 'experiment' for you. Get two boxes of the same size. Fill one with sand and the other with feathers. "OMG WHY IS ONE HEAVIER THAN THE OTHER??? THEY'RE THE SAME SIZE!!!"
Should I go on?
I have an 'experiment' for you. Get two boxes of the same size. Fill one with sand and the other with feathers. "OMG WHY IS ONE HEAVIER THAN THE OTHER??? THEY'RE THE SAME SIZE!!!"
Should I go on?
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Sep 1 2010, 09:58 AM
That's not the point. The point is, if Honda continued development, it likely would have gotten better at the designs. Without real experience to build upon, its designs are just a "first stab" at doing it.
Mazda has been making Miatas for over 20 years and three product generations; Porsche has been making convertible sports cars for twice as long, and both surely have benefitted from benchmarking their old designs and improving upon them. If Honda actually got into development it would surely improve its original designs, like cutting weight without sacrificing strength in the frame.
Mazda has been making Miatas for over 20 years and three product generations; Porsche has been making convertible sports cars for twice as long, and both surely have benefitted from benchmarking their old designs and improving upon them. If Honda actually got into development it would surely improve its original designs, like cutting weight without sacrificing strength in the frame.
Can you maximize that it for a convertible, yes perhaps, but do you need 20 years expertise to do it? no (unless you have a very poor engineering team)
Which leads me to another topic, do you take a mazda mx-5 platform and improve it's powerplant to be a competitive track car or take a honda s2000 and maximize weight reduction.
take in the cost of purchase vs modification, one will be cheaper then the other. Sawing holes in the s2000 chassis is extreme method to reducing weight.
Sure this thread will create a slew of half witted comments, but it's something to think about when you want to win races.
