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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 07:43 AM
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So - after all of your removals, etc., what is the final weight of the car?
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 07:49 AM
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mike: can't you get the car corner weighted to compensate for the weight loss?
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 08:51 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike Schuster
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First, at low speed I experienced extremely bad wheel spin in some corners.
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 09:40 AM
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A beefier front bar is probably the quickest and easiest fix but i'd recommend stiffer rear springs in conjunction with a softer/removed rear sway bar. Its that rear sway bar thats picking up the rear inside wheel.
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by davepk
A beefier front bar is probably the quickest and easiest fix but i'd recommend stiffer rear springs in conjunction with a softer/removed rear sway bar. Its that rear sway bar thats picking up the rear inside wheel.
I guess rules for autox competitions forbid that rear bar removal or change, so that's why so much attention to the front bar.

Have you removed your rear sway bar?

So far, I don't push the car enough to get rear wheel lift problems, but I also have the N-0 coil overs.
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 10:44 AM
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I swaped a softer '02 bar for my '00 rear bar. Unfortunately i have yet to change spring rates but even now i can notice that i have quite a bit less wheel lift than before. I'll likely be making a spring change mid Jan in time for LS. But, i'm still undecided if i'm going to try and run with no bar and the corrosponding stiffer springs. From what i hear though thats really the way to do it.
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 10:47 AM
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Rylan, the corner weighting can't really do anything for the f/r weight distribution, only the balance between LF+RR vs. RF+LR.

Mike,
The problem is a basic one in the roll couple distribution (but you've got Milliken's book, you already knew that ). Because of your change in the balance of the car, it may be time for you to leave behind the paradigm of more tire in the rear for the S2000. Since your car already pushes, anything you do to the front to keep that back wheel planted (stiffer springs, bigger bar) will just make it push more. Unless....you add more tire along with the change.

A similar question was posed on another board in relation to this one:
http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums/showt...p?threadid=6235

The X factor in all this is shocks. The inside wheelspin issue is a problem most every autocrosser on R-compounds has faced at some point. The standard solution is a big front bar - but - shock tuning can do a lot for you. I've driven a few S2000s, and know that a car with the right shock valving and setup can out-handle and put power down better than another car with more swaybar and stock (or sub-optimally valved/tuned) shocks.
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 11:42 AM
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hey mike, get a gel cell battery, that will remove 15 lbs from the front end. I have an oddessy bat and am quite happy with it
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by Mike Schuster
So stiffer springs than Ohlins' standard recommendation are needed for bumpy tracks if you want to lower the car much.
What are the spring rates of your car now? Much higher than stock? Thanks.
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Old Dec 12, 2002 | 09:16 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Prolene
[B] What are the spring rates of your car now?
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