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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Feb 12 2007, 11:38 AM
Your KAAZ is not the stock diff. If the stock diff starts making horrible crunching noises, you have a big problem.
That's why I said "my KAAZ" rather than "my diff."

Stock diff is pretty close to silent.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mxt_77,Feb 12 2007, 09:39 AM
There is no spoon.
The past tense of "spin" is "spun', not "spoon."
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[QUOTE=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force]Centrifugal force (from Latin centrum "center" and fugere "to flee") is a term which may refer to two different forces which are related to rotation. Both of them are oriented away from the axis of rotation, but the object on which they are exerted differs.

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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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And if Wikipedia says it, it must be true!

Centrifugal forces are referred to as "ficticious" because there is no external force towards the outside of the circle being applied to the object in question. Instead, there is an acceleration being applied towards the inside of the circle. But F=MA (Newton's Second Law), so the acceleration must be a result of a force to the inside of the circle, which (by Newton's Third Law) creates an inertial reaction force (Newton's First Law) towards the outside.

I'm not even going to get into reference frames....
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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If you look at the full Wikipedia entry you'll see that it goes into quite a bit more detail.

Just because a force is "ficticious" doesn't mean that it's not a real force. It's just a matter of the perspective from which we are viewing the force. (I know you get it Mike, but I didn't want the post "there is no such thing as centrifugal force" to confuse too many people.)
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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Hence the "there is no spoon" reference.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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In fact, though, it is relevant to this discussion that there is no external centrifugal force. Because these forces that we feel are internal, inertial forces, there is no force that will pull the outside of the car around in a loop.

Instead, what happens is that the rear end of the car wants to go in a straight line, not to the outside. But if the front end of the car is pulling it to the inside of the corner and the rear end of the car continues in a straight line, then the car will rotate around its center, swapping ends. If the rotational inertia is large enough, it will rotate several times.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Or maybe the guy just ran into the side of a centrifuge causing him to spin out. Ergo... cengtrifugal force.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Your car is fine. I slide every time I turn left or do a U-turn....on purpose. Learn how to handle it. It's actually quite enjoyable
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mxt_77,Feb 12 2007, 04:13 PM
Or maybe the guy just ran into the side of a centrifuge causing him to spin out. Ergo... cengtrifugal force.
i think he had oem wheels swapped with 17x8 centrifuges
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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Ok I give up I'll go to that professional driving school in the future! I just thought I get bit of feed back but I think I got more info that I bargained for.
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