S2k rear spin out
The other day this type of situation happened to me. I was turning right to go under a bridge. The roads were mostly dry, but the shade from the bridge wouldn't allow the ice to melt where I was turning. I was in 2nd and barely gave it any gas when the rear end started to slide out. I quickly pushed the clutch in and countersteered. The rear end slid out maybe 2 feet and then the car straightened out. The road was very icy and it STILL would've taken a conscious effort on my part to get the car to do a 360. I have plenty of empty parking lots by me, and I do a lot of drifting in all kinds of weather conditions. Even when drifting in a parking lot with probably a 1/4 inch of standing water, I NEVER completely spun the car out. I agree with the general consensus, to spin these cars out completely at a low speed like that, the driver would have to break the 2 cardinal rules of correcting a spin. That is, slamming on the brakes and steering in the wrong direction.
Everyone has experienced a spin or two when driving their S. At some point, virtually every driver of an S comes to the realization that this car is specifically made to handle at very high levels of performance. Therefore for most of us who are not racing experts, it is a virtual certainty that one of the following three events are will occur:
1. The driver concludes that he needs to improve his driving skills and receives significant professional training and experience in connection with attending an extensive high speed driving course and, perhaps follow up courses for racing and autox;
2. The driver gains some exerience in driving the S for several years but elects to refrain driving it to the level exceeding his abilities. He will still enjoy the hell out of driving the car anyway since driving enjoyment is somewhat reletive to each individual anyway. With a little luck and awareness on behalf of the driver, he will have a blast and be a very happy owner; or
3. The driver maintains his belief that his skills are more than sufficient to drive this car at its higher levels for which it was designed for and thereby becomes a member of the "I HIT A CURB CLUB." I would venture to say this is not a pleasant experience or an inexpensive one either.
Even though you were going rather slow, I have also found it easy to break the rear free if making a sharp enough turn and jamming the throttle. But that is just one aspect of the performance capability that can become part of your driving enjoyment with proper training.
If you can make this a positive experience and move forward to enhance your awareness and abilities, you well lbe a better driver for it.
IMHO, the best money you will ever spend is enrolling in a high speed driving course and then taking your car to the track to become familiar with its unique handling aspects.
Good luck
1. The driver concludes that he needs to improve his driving skills and receives significant professional training and experience in connection with attending an extensive high speed driving course and, perhaps follow up courses for racing and autox;
2. The driver gains some exerience in driving the S for several years but elects to refrain driving it to the level exceeding his abilities. He will still enjoy the hell out of driving the car anyway since driving enjoyment is somewhat reletive to each individual anyway. With a little luck and awareness on behalf of the driver, he will have a blast and be a very happy owner; or
3. The driver maintains his belief that his skills are more than sufficient to drive this car at its higher levels for which it was designed for and thereby becomes a member of the "I HIT A CURB CLUB." I would venture to say this is not a pleasant experience or an inexpensive one either.
Even though you were going rather slow, I have also found it easy to break the rear free if making a sharp enough turn and jamming the throttle. But that is just one aspect of the performance capability that can become part of your driving enjoyment with proper training.
If you can make this a positive experience and move forward to enhance your awareness and abilities, you well lbe a better driver for it.
IMHO, the best money you will ever spend is enrolling in a high speed driving course and then taking your car to the track to become familiar with its unique handling aspects.
Good luck
Originally Posted by RED MX5,Feb 9 2007, 01:09 PM
It's easy and doesn't really require "serious skill." See the little animated gif in my signature to see just how easy it is.
Originally Posted by RED MX5,Feb 10 2007, 01:17 PM
LOL, not a good indicator. My KAAZ makes "horrible crunching noises" when it is cold, but all it means is that the oil is cold.


One thing I'd add is what gear were you in? 1st? In crappy conditions it might pay to short shift like crazy.
Once or twice I even had to start in 2nd, just because the rear was getting a bit loose from all that mad torque
Once or twice I even had to start in 2nd, just because the rear was getting a bit loose from all that mad torque



