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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RMurphy
Originally Posted by Bliss
^Tank slapper wait were driving a s2000 not riding a sportsbike.
Yes, it originated in the motorcycle world, but the expression got adapted to the car world a long time ago. It's when the back end steps out, driver over-corrects and the back end then steps out the other direction. Do this multiple times in rapid succession and you have a tank slapper. Commonly seen at autocross novice practice events.
I guess I am officially a tank slapper by that definition...

Grew up in the country riding mortorcycles, 4 wheelers, go carts, pretty much anything with an engine and tires... getting sideways on dirt roads was a daily event... still gets the heart rate up though when you spin and don't mean it.

One night coming home came across a bridge that was iced up and I did a complete 360 and then kept going as easy as you please right on down the road... was so smooth and happened so fast I didnt have time to to get nervous... I was like.. what the heck.. that was crazy...
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 04:14 PM
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Yea thanks for the education! Never heard the term used in car world but I dont autocross but willing to learn. I Think all my motorbikes had dents in the gastank due to the handlebars slapping the crap out of it. lol.

Dont ride anymore need my lic. for work. But th s has me worried have drove it way faster than I should have on ca. freeway. Top speed around what

165mph

this car is too squirlly for this imo.
120 max.

sorry off topic i will shut up.
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 05:34 PM
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We just had a few inches of snow and ice a couple days ago but the roads were pretty clear today so I decided to take the s out for an errand. I hit a slick spot on the highway that I didn't even see going probably 35mph. Well the rear end just kicked out unexpectedly and it felt like I got 90* from my original direction but I corrected for it and slightly went the opposite direction, at which point I corrected everything out and went on my way.

Definitely a scary moment looking at a concrete barrier when you hadn't done anything where you would expect a spin. I was literally going straight, not merging or anything. Ive learned my lesson and will be shopping for some snow tires. I'm just glad I managed to save it because the air bags likely would have deployed
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 06:01 PM
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I havent spun out on accident but the other day I was messing around in a big parking lot and boy does the car spin out easily and violently lol
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 07:09 PM
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Spun twice but on two different track days
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SkiLLeDS2000
I spun my clients 2004 Viper once coming out of a parking lot, but in 45,000 miles I have never spun the S. I also never drive the car in crappy weather.

It's the winter, be careful, my insurance premium is high enough.
That's what happens when you go from 150 lb-ft. to 525 lb-ft in an even more extreme chassis than an S has. .
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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I spun on cold tires and clipped a guardrail with the rear corner of the bumper/wheel and bent my spindle. I corrected the initial head-on trajectory and didn't have quite enough room to miss the rail when I floored it to spin the other way, and spun 5-6 more times down the straight stretch until I finally stopped facing back the direction I came from. The bent spindle/wheel were having no part of being corrected the whole time.. was a shitty night and $1,200ish in the trash can. Drove back to my house at ~20mph and got in another car, headed back out and continue my mission successfully. That's the only time I've ever even come close since, and it was a bit of unpreparedness that caused mine more than anything. Cigarette in my right hand when it all started, and that took an important .00015% of my time needed to do roadwork...
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 11:47 PM
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I pulled the after track day "report" that my mentor wrote up after the above-mentioned Laguna Seca day. It's like reading a high-school competency test result.

Here is an excerpt about some of the more exciting moments:
"There were 3 occasions I said "Oh boy!" going into turns...once in the hairpin at the end of the straight, once in T4, and once in the corkscrew. In the hairpin, she carried way to much speed in, but the car just did a 4-wheel slide and scrubbed off the speed. That would have easily been a 180 in my AP1 on any day. I was laughing when she did it.

She went into T4 really fast once, tires howling a little and she yells "WOO-HOO" through it.

The scariest was the corkscrew mistake. She got off the brakes and carried way too much speed going in. The car got loose on turn-in and I thought we were going around. She wrenched the wheel to the right for the second apex and the left rear tire caught, the suspension squatted, and shot us down the hill. I couldn't believe she did not spin."
The "woohoo!" moment was the best IMO. I had been warned that if you carry too much speed into T4 and the car wants to track off the outer edge, you should not try to catch it... just let it drive off, let it slow gradually, then drive back on to the track gradually when things have gotten calmed down. If you try to "save" it by pinching it off trying keep it on track or you drop a tire off and try to wrench it back on track, you are likely to catch just in time to point it straight at the wall on the opposite side of the track at a high rate of speed and do both your car and yourself serious damage. So I knew as I headed into it and felt the four wheel drift, all I could do was let the car have its head and go along for the ride. So I laughed at myself, shouted, "woohoo!" and let it ride. Turns out, it went to the edge, but not off.

In the last session of the day, a Miata did exactly the wrong thing in T4. It did not end in a woohoo moment. Basically drove straight into the wall at about 70 or 80 mph. There but by the grace of God (and a woohoo four wheel drift) went I. Driver was not injured, passenger had a broken arm, car was a complete mess and was hauled off on a flat bed.
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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I've had a few moments in my S, but my most interesting moment was in my old Sentra SER Spec V.

I had been for a cruise with some friends on a windy mountain road that turned in to a snow drive (lots of fun, highly recommend). I took it pretty easy in the snow but when I got back on to the clear roads, I picked up the pace.

Now I always leave a margin for error when driving on public roads so when I took a hair pin and experienced power-on snap oversteer (I was completely backwards before I could even turn the wheel to full opposite lock) I was pretty confused. Not really what you'd expect in a FWD car.

I didn't hit anything but facing the other direction I found the culprit. A chunk of snow had fallen from my car and my outside rear tire ran over it in the middle of the turn.

Needless to say I took it pretty easy for the rest of the day, but it was an interesting combination of fear and confusion.

Chalk another one up for leaving margin for error on public roads. With a little more speed I'd have been off the road for sure.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 05:21 PM
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I've had one unintentional spin, it was on a recently repaved road, and it had just started raining lightly so the road was particularly slick, and having just bought the car without having a chance to get new tires on the back, I had bald(2s, if best) rear tires that were 6 years old. I go into a roundabout straight, so the roundabout made me swerve to the right in an arc. Well, as I came out of the curve, the back stepped out to the left a little under extremely light throttle and my inexperience had me overcorrect too much, so the car spun 180 degrees to the right. Luckily I wasn't going very fast so i didn't go very far and the road had a center turn lane/empty space in the middle so the car coming the other way didn't have to do much. I haven't spun since then, and that was 8 months ago. New tires and a much earned respect for the rain and this car in the rain has allowed that.

Be safe and don't run on worn tires of any type.
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