I don't think any publication has said that the Z06 will outhandle, outaccelerate, or outbrake a Modena. Road and Track recently had a comparison in which the Z06 finished second, behind the Modena.

 

Simply not so. The Cobra will, if driven properly, edge out an S2000 from a dead stop, but the S2000's strength is NOT from a dead stop, it is from a rolling start. My best friend has a new Cobra and depending on the jump, he will barely, I repeat barely pull on me if he hits it PERFECT. Hell, I have beaten a poorly driven Z28 from a rolling start.

 

Yes. But again it has allot to do with the driver. Two days ago I came upon a brand new convertible Carrera on one of my favorite roads. For the next VERY TWISTY (as in u-turn after u-turn) 11 miles he could not lose me...infact I had to reign it in a bit. Theoretically, he should have left me no problem because the S2000 doesnt shine in turns where you have to get into first in order to keep VTECH engaged. But he didnt, so obviously he wasnt as skilled of a driver.

 

Not according to the results yesterday at the SCCA National tour event. Two of the Stooks posted faster times than most of the Z06's.

-Shing

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by QueRAM
[B][QUOTE]Originally posted by slaughterj
[b]In possession of both a new 99 Mustang GT (not convertible (convertible is slower), and a manual (automatic is slower)) and 2000 S2K, both run very well against one another.

 

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A mustang GT is fast but not in the same league as a well driven s2k on a track. It would be more of a challenger for the type R.
With all due respect, my son owned and competed a 99 Mustang GT; after one drive in a 2000 Integra Type R, the Ford was sold and replaced by the Acura. Having driven his cars on several tracks, the ITR is a vastly superior driving machine. There is simply no basis for comparison between these cars; even less when attempting to compare a Mustang (a car in most respects unchanged from the 1964 original) with a world-class sports car (S-2000) using leading-edge technology.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by shingles
[B]Not according to the results yesterday at the SCCA National tour event.

 

Actually, i don't remember which mag it was, i believe it was sports compact car. Ran a type R against the new mustang GT on two different tracks and the GT came ahead barely on one and by a few seconds on the other. I am sure on a different day and different track the R would have finsished ahead.

You have to remember that the mustang is a RWD and has 65 more Horses, one extra gear and much more low end. The fact that the Type R can still compete with it is a great thing.

I in no way was bashing the R, i see my statement as more of a compliment to it.

 

All I have to say is the amount of tourque the Mustang has makes it a hard car to launch. Kinda as hard as the Stook but the opposite. We have no tourque and have to drop the hammer to spool up ponnies. They have instant HP and tourque wich usually lets traction break easily. I am not sure if the automatics have traction control but my friends late 90's model vette does, and he jumps on me every time. If he takes it off he has no chance.
I was owed money and took in partial payment a 87? mustang with the GT 40 crate engine. This car was mental. But when I look back it hard a hard time hoookin up. That thing would spin ya around so fast and without warning. Dangerous car. Anyway. Once again its driver based. The S2K can take it but there is no room for mistakes.

Cha Chi

 

And the S2000 is a Honda... whats your point?

Sounds like you haven't driven a C5...

I'll step out on the record to say that my C5 Vette felt MUCH more stable than my S2000 did in the turns. The C5 inspired more confidence than the S2000 and was very forgiving to drive... those traits have NOTHING to do with it being a CHEVY... yes, being happy is not all about straight line. The confidence in the Vette allowed me to be happier in the turns too.

My C5 was flat out faster and better handling than the my S2000. But, it did not exhibit the go-kart feel or the instant steering response that the S2000 does... not that the Vette was numb by any means, but being a larger and heavier car, it didn't have that "right this very microsecond" response...

Around a racetrack, I know I'd be faster in a C5 (we arent even talking Z06 here, just a "regular" C5). The C5 is just simply easier to extract 99.9% of the performance out of... Plus, there is that Active Handling that lets you try to get 101% out of the car without soiling your shorts...

I'm sure an absolute pro could extract 100% out of the S2000 and 100% out of the Vette and he might conclude that the S2000 is a better handling car. I'm not a pro, but IMO the Vette had more usable performance close to the limit... FWIW, at track day in the C5, I did manage to lap another C5 in a 20 minute session, so just remember that the driver DOES matter

My point is that an average driver in both cars: Advantage Z06...

(but its not a convertible, it costs more, and doesn't get nearly as good fuel mileage)






[QUOTE]Originally posted by shingles
[B]
A Z06 is a Chevy... I am not fond of Chevy's... sure it's fast, but being happy about a car isn't about going fast in a straight line.