Shifting questions and tips
so how about downshifting to slow down? is this bad for the syncros or bad for anything? does it drag the clutch out and wear it down faster?
Originally Posted by crassus,Mar 13 2005, 03:23 PM
i've always thought that if you're doing it right, the only disadvantage of downshifting to slow the car is lower gas milage since the engine is at higher revs.
I think the disadvantage is a bit of extra engine wear.
Originally Posted by crassus,Mar 13 2005, 05:23 PM
might be wrong, but if you're rev-matching properly, engine braking puts little stress on the clutch. now, if you're not blipping the throttle enough you can have a good amount of clutch slip when you re-engage the drive train and doing that often may lower the life of the plate. i've always thought that if you're doing it right, the only disadvantage of downshifting to slow the car is lower gas milage since the engine is at higher revs. but, on the other hand, it reduces your use of the brakes so your pads may last longer. trade off....
Engine braking doesn't put any more stress, in fact, I doubt it puts anywhere near the stress that normal acceleration does on the clutch and drive train. As Crassus said, if you don't rev match cleanly, you'll put a little added wear and tear on the clutch disk but unless you're consistantly sloppy about it, I don't think it'll be significant.
As for any impact on fuel consumption, I think it would be negligable. Maybe someone can confirm this but I've heard, and get the impression with my car, that the ECU shuts off fuel flow when you're decelerating with your foot completely off the gas. My reason for saying that, and I could be wrong, is that my car decelerates nicely with my foot off the gas down to about 1200 rpm. It then "kicks back on" (?) to establish an idle. In the lower gears, the effect is pretty abrupt.
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For normal crusing at general traffic flow speeds, I suggest upshifting at around 4000-4500rpm. This is generally the area where the exhaust note changes to be a bit droney.
I also find that 3rd gear around 4000rpm is the approximate speed limit in a lot of areas around me. If I stay in 3rd I can hear when I'm speeding by the exhaust note, in higher gears my speed tends to creep up without me noticing.
When travelling in stop/start traffic at really slow speeds (ie 5pmh) don't try to creep along in 1st gear, use the clutch to disengage/engage when needed.
Don't try to do burnouts- the diff can be fragile.
I also find that 3rd gear around 4000rpm is the approximate speed limit in a lot of areas around me. If I stay in 3rd I can hear when I'm speeding by the exhaust note, in higher gears my speed tends to creep up without me noticing.
When travelling in stop/start traffic at really slow speeds (ie 5pmh) don't try to creep along in 1st gear, use the clutch to disengage/engage when needed.
Don't try to do burnouts- the diff can be fragile.
Originally Posted by BNavZ,Mar 11 2005, 08:46 PM
Id say just learn to downshift properly and quickly... By properly I mean to know how to rev match appropriately for each gear. Like say youre in 5th...get a feel for how much youd need to press the gas to raise revs appropriately to drop gear to 4th, 3rd, or 2nd...
I actually do shift to 5th at 40
, but can get to any gear I need to really fast and therefore I don't think its necessary to have engine at higher rpms for no reason... My normal driving rpms are around 2,500 (+ or - ~300 rpm). For the most part, this is kind of low and I don't really have much power to pass or anything, but as I said, I'm used to downshifting quickly, so whenever I need extra power, i just drop it a gear or two as needed....
I actually do shift to 5th at 40
, but can get to any gear I need to really fast and therefore I don't think its necessary to have engine at higher rpms for no reason... My normal driving rpms are around 2,500 (+ or - ~300 rpm). For the most part, this is kind of low and I don't really have much power to pass or anything, but as I said, I'm used to downshifting quickly, so whenever I need extra power, i just drop it a gear or two as needed....Thread
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