Which should I go for AP1 or AP2?
Originally Posted by Silvia_Drift' timestamp='1318015142' post='21049922
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I would never buy an 04-05 for the lack of flashpro use. If I were to buy a new s2000 all over again it would be 03 or 06+. Currently have an 07 with a flashpro. No ap1 can take me unless it has gears in it. This "soft suspension" thing I don't believe either. I haven't tracked an ap1 though so I could be wrong, but I bet I can get a better time on a track with an ap2 over ap1.
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I would never buy an 04-05 for the lack of flashpro use. If I were to buy a new s2000 all over again it would be 03 or 06+. Currently have an 07 with a flashpro. No ap1 can take me unless it has gears in it. This "soft suspension" thing I don't believe either. I haven't tracked an ap1 though so I could be wrong, but I bet I can get a better time on a track with an ap2 over ap1.
? There was a video though where the drift king was able to hold a higher speed through corners with ap2 suspension, over ap1 suspension.[/quote]
Just to let you know, that video with DK comparing the AP1 to AP2, the AP2 set slightly faster lap times. It was determined that this mainly was due to the bigger wheels and tires on the AP2. Once they bolted the AP2 wheels and tires onto the AP1, the lap time was virtually the same.
All in all, from a driving dynamics standpoint, the AP1 is more engaging and raw to drive where as the AP2 is less sporty, but much easier to drive quickly. Basically, the driving experience in the AP1 is better, but the practicality and refinement in the AP2 is better.
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I know this is an old thread but I just wana clear this up for anyone stumbling on this thread. This did not happen on the bmi video. When they switched the bigger tires to the ap1 the times were not identical. The ap1 clocked a faster time by .5 seconds , but still not identical to an ap2. The ap2 was still .5 seconds faster with the ap1 running the bigger tires. Also keep in mind the ap2 on the bmi video holds a 2.0 motor as well. They determined the better suspension setup was the true factor why the ap2 was faster than the ap1
AP1 time 1'12"120
Ap2 time 1'11"151
AP1 time with ap2 tires 1'11"646
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That video you are referring to was not very "scientific" as far testing goes. And the difference was 1/2 second. That wasn't the most controlled environment. In fact if you look at the "fastest" times from 0-60 and 1/4 mile and track runs across the years of any S2000 Ap1 or Ap2.... It was the AP1 that had fastest #s. But who knows how cold the air temp etc.
Here are Car and Driver Results of two shootouts and AP1 was faster to 60, slower at top speed, Ap1 better skidpad and braking than Ap2.... Point is........ Same car.... and any given day they are almost identical.... but there are many professional tests where AP1 has slightly better #s. In fact, the Skidpad on the Ap1 is closer to that of CR version than any AP2 tested..... Not to mention Car and Driver named AP1 the Best Naturally Aspirated Engine of ALL TIMES
AP1
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...st-results.pdf
Ap2
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...e-sports-1.pdf
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...eme-sports.pdf
The Skidpad differences are more significant and in favor of Ap1...... as per car and driver results.
Not even multiple times. U run a 13.5 at the track compared to a 14.0 that's a significant time. Ur talking well over a car length . But again I didn't bump an old thread to start this debate. I was just clearing up what happened in the bmi video since the previous post was wrong . I'm ap1 all the way
I have 3 S2000's.
08 CR, 08 AP2 and an 03 AP1. I like them all but if I had to pick one the CR is the best among them.
The 9k redline is meaningless... Car makes zero power at 9k. The ap1 is cool but for driving around on the street the ap2 is a clear winner.
08 CR, 08 AP2 and an 03 AP1. I like them all but if I had to pick one the CR is the best among them.
The 9k redline is meaningless... Car makes zero power at 9k. The ap1 is cool but for driving around on the street the ap2 is a clear winner.
Originally Posted by blueprint
I have 3 S2000's. 08 CR, 08 AP2 and an 03 AP1. I like them all but if I had to pick one the CR is the best among them. The 9k redline is meaningless... Car makes zero power at 9k. The ap1 is cool but for driving around on the street the ap2 is a clear winner.
Originally Posted by blueprint
I have 3 S2000's. 08 CR, 08 AP2 and an 03 AP1. I like them all but if I had to pick one the CR is the best among them. The 9k redline is meaningless... Car makes zero power at 9k. The ap1 is cool but for driving around on the street the ap2 is a clear winner.
Let me know. I will list her soon.








