Which should I go for AP1 or AP2?

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Oct 7, 2011 | 11:19 AM

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Silvia_Drift

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Originally Posted by FluKy15

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Originally Posted by purplemonkeydishwasher' timestamp='1311335307' post='20804411

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I would never buy an 04-05 for the lack of flashpro use. If I were to buy a new s2000 all over again it would be 03 or 06+. Currently have an 07 with a flashpro. No ap1 can take me unless it has gears in it. This "soft suspension" thing I don't believe either. I haven't tracked an ap1 though so I could be wrong, but I bet I can get a better time on a track with an ap2 over ap1.

Stock for stock, the better time around a circuit is probably due to the higher torque characteristics of the AP2 motor rather than the equivalence of the AP1's suspension. I've not driven an AP2 but I can say with some certainty that while most will swear by the AP1's suspension over the AP2, every single book I've read or am reading on race car driving states that lap times and races are won on the straights and not in the corners. I would be pretty inclined to believe you'd post better times in an AP2 compared to an AP1 for the simple fact that you'd be able to gain better exit speeds and subsequently, higher top speeds in the straights.

If you came to cayuga with your ap1 and let me drive it, we could try this out yes

? There was a video though where the drift king was able to hold a higher speed through corners with ap2 suspension, over ap1 suspension.
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Just to let you know, that video with DK comparing the AP1 to AP2, the AP2 set slightly faster lap times. It was determined that this mainly was due to the bigger wheels and tires on the AP2. Once they bolted the AP2 wheels and tires onto the AP1, the lap time was virtually the same.

All in all, from a driving dynamics standpoint, the AP1 is more engaging and raw to drive where as the AP2 is less sporty, but much easier to drive quickly. Basically, the driving experience in the AP1 is better, but the practicality and refinement in the AP2 is better.

Dec 1, 2011 | 11:47 AM

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03 9g

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From: phila

Either one is a great choice you won't be sorry for !!!

Dec 1, 2011 | 02:50 PM

#43

RedCelica

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^^^This. Drive both, then make your decision.

Dec 1, 2011 | 08:05 PM

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g0g3tt4

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One guy bought the Ap2 and Put the Ap1 engine in it, that would be the best of both worlds.

Dec 1, 2011 | 08:56 PM

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2003AP1

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I drive an 03. If I was to drive a 2000 (Not saying I would trade mine for it) but if I was to drive it would it be a big difference in terms of the ride? I assume the power would be just about the same at a given rpm. Just curious.

Dec 1, 2011 | 10:47 PM

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liquid_helix136

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Damn someone neg rep bombed the hell out of this thread lol

Dec 1, 2011 | 11:35 PM

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wrecked

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After owning a MY03 for almost a year now, honestly, I couldn't see loving an ap2 more then this..

Dec 2, 2011 | 08:48 AM

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You could look at it like this- in a straight line race, the AP1/AP2 would have a visual yoyo effect flying down a track in which distance weren't a factor and time was meaningless. 8300rpm vs. 9000 ,rhe difference is 700rpm or about 8%. Each shift would come sooner with the AP2 by (0.5sec arbritrary and averaged over a total of 5 ,2nd through 6th. The winner could only be determend by drawing a line or assigning a specific time period. Each of these cars would enjoy an advantage at different spots in this imaginary race based on these two factors. If the race were infinite, I would predict a dead heat.