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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 02:38 AM
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heel-toe
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 04:16 AM
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Come on people! Everyone has had to learn how to drive sometime! Topics on driving on this board are few and far between! I would rather talk about the the dynamics and techniques of driving than the gobs of "nothing" that is posted to this site daily.

Here, check out this article and let us know if you have questions.

http://www.turnfast.com/tech_driving/drivi...g_heeltoe.lasso
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 05:11 AM
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to make it simple:

1) Put foot on brake

2) Push in clutch

3) downshift

4) blip throttle with braking foot (with your heel) while still braking

5) let out clutch


I other words, go to a driving school
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 05:31 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 03_AP1
to make it simple:

1)
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 06:23 AM
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When you brake, you move the center of gravity of the car forward, and the supension in the front gets compressed. However, you want the best balance, and full supension travell available THROUGH the turn. Thats why you finnish breaking before you turn-in, to settle the car, and have the full suspension travell ready to handle the cornering.

You should be on the throttle light early in the turn and work the throttle through the entire turn, untill you gradually exit the turn, applying up to full throttle.

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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 07:06 AM
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emrillive,

Are you asking about performance driving near the limits, or just average day-to-day driving?

It sounds like you're just asking about day-to-day driving. If that's the case, then you can take the turn without any throttle.

The bouncing motion you sometimes feel is probably due to lack of rev matching. To avoid it, before taking your foot off the clutch pedal, you need to first make sure your engine RPMs are where they should be for that gear.
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 07:55 AM
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Your clutch should only be depressed when changing gears. As you get more comfortable with driving a manual transmission you will begin to "just know" what gear you should be in for a given speed at a turn. Seems like your question just comes from a lack of experience (which is ok, we all figured this out somehow)

If I sit here and think about it I would say unless you are wanting to power around a corner approach it at speed, press clutch, take it out of gear (let clutch out) coast around the corner, as you are leaving the turn depress clutch and select a gear (usually 2nd or 3rd). Conversely, if you are wanting to power around a corner, yes you will select the gear you need just as normal and use throttle around the corner. **warning, you are obviously not completely comfortable in your car yet, powering around a corner in a RWD car such as ours will VERY quickly get you in a LOT of trouble that you may not know yet how to recover from, I wouldn't suggest you do this on a public street until you have either practiced it extensively in a vacant lot or aforementioned driving school!!**

The absolute best advice I can give you is to go spend some time in a big deserted parking lot trying out these things you are curious about, where you can't hurt yourself, your car or others. It would be even better if you took someone with you with some manual tranny driving experience that can give you pointers, and/or drive for you a little bit so you see what they are doing.

Good Luck, and please be careful! Travis
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 08:08 AM
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man this shouldn't have been your first car
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by RazorV3
man this shouldn't have been your first car
Is this his first car period or just his first manual transmission car?

I too would second the driving school. Much, MUCH more important than a shift knob IMO.
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 10:29 AM
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i don't think you should be worrying about heel and toe just yet... you might get confused and panic, which won't be good. if you want a really really simple way to take a corner for daily driving, just do this:

as you're coming to a turn, just throw the car into neutral and use your brakes to coast into the turn. take the turn at a comfortable speed, say 15-20 mph. once you've made the turn, or maybe during the turn, put the car in second gear and you're done.

okay, now say its a wider turn, like an intersection. just coast into the turn in neutral. only this time, since you'll probably be going 30-35 mph, put the car into 3rd gear as you're coming out of the turn.

the point is, being in neutral isn't a bad thing. when you are in neutral, the clutch should not be depressed. you will learn over time what gear you can go to coming from neutral depending on the current speed of your car. once you feel comfortable driving on the open road, then you can learn how to take corners faster with heel and toe downshifting.

YOU SHOULD NOT BE TAKING TURNS AT 50 MPH!!! the s2000 is capable of this, but since you are not comfortable with the manual yet, this car is not forgiving and you can definately loose your tail. drive safe!

hope this helps a little.
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