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Snap Oversteer

Old Sep 15, 2003 | 05:30 PM
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I have heard various comments made about snap oversteer in the s200. My question is under what conditions does snap oversteer occur? For example. Does it occur during safe, spirited driving or does it only occur doing unsafe (for street driving) speeds?

If you take a 25 mph curve at 45 mph is snap oversteer likely to happen? If you take it at a speed that may be unsafe, say 65 mph, is it almost certain to happen? I live where I can go up a highway into the mountains and get a good view of cars coming at me or in front of me. So I can safely push the speed limit around curves. It seems from some of the comments that I have read that it occurs when the car is being pushed to the limits during vtec driving. Since that is not something I do a lot of on city streets, for safety reasons, I am wondering if it can occur at much lower speeds?

Also could somebody explain what understeer is and what causes it and does the s2000 ever have it as a problem.

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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 06:13 PM
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here is your best bet:

Take your car out and practice. Go over the same corners over and over and slightly increased speeds each time. You will develop a feel for the car.

I have taken 90 degree corners at 45 with no problem, and I have lost the rear at 25mph. The difference was what I suspect to be the biggest reason for "snap oversteer." I engaged VTEC halfway through the corner. The sudden surge of power with the tires being taxed to hang on (even just a little) caused it to kick out on me. (Didn't help that the ground was a little wet too.)

Once you are familiar with the limit on the car, I doubt you will have any problems as long as you keep an eye on your VTEC engagement point.
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 06:34 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ruexp67
[B]I engaged VTEC halfway through the corner.
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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'Snap Oversteer' just describes a trait where a car goes to extreme oversteer with little warning.. but that does not mean it happens for no reason. It is usually prompted by driver error, which is too much steering input, too much throttle in a turn, reducing throttle in a turn, etc. It is simply when the driver just drives hard enough (or stupid enough) to exceed the limits of lateral adhesion.

It can happen at any speed, on any surface, but it rarely happens without pushing the car, so it is not something to worry about, but rather something to be aware of.. and even experiment with under safe conditions.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 04:41 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ojaibob
[B]Also could somebody explain what understeer is and what causes it and does the s2000 ever have it as a problem.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 05:18 AM
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I'm not sure I would characterize it as "snap" oversteer. Yes, it can get away from you if you are not paying attention and things happen fast, but it's not like one second you're in a corner and the next you're in the hedges ass first.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 05:29 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by S2kRob
[B]I'm not sure I would characterize it as "snap" oversteer.
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