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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ZDan,Jan 6 2008, 05:16 AM
You would need to invest in a roll bar. I got mine from Hard Dog http://www.bethania-garage.com
A worthwhile investment anyway.
I would VERY HIGHLY recommend that nobody buy and install a roll bar in their car unless they are very seriously into track driving. There are a lot of negatives to go with the positives.

I very much do not recommend buying and installing a roll bar just to take a novice driving school. There are plenty of such schools that allow stock S2000s. Or you can always take the school in another car, but it's best to take it in the car you actually drive.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Jan 5 2008, 05:47 PM
Don't hold your breath. Driver's Ed is set up to teach you how to parallel park, not how to take a late apex corner.
I was refering to that Driver's Ed. should teach you how to come out of a spin, skid, etc...

ZDan, you mentioned something about COM, I briefly looked on the website, and it seems to be pretty cool but I'm not 18 yet and it seemed that theres a chance that if you apply to get in they might pass over you, is that correct?

And I'm too sure if I would want to put a Roll Bar in the car.

Thanks for the info on the book though, I do plan on getting it soon.

I will look into the whole AutoX, SCCA, and everything else you guys have mentioned. Maybe, I'll see some of you guys around there?

Thanks for the help,

Frank
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by s2k08,Jan 5 2008, 04:50 PM
Guys,

I would just like to thank you for explaining this stuff, because being a teenage driver(I'm only 17 ), I am fairly unexperienced as much as I would not like to admit it. This thread has perhaps been the most imformative one I have seen in a while.

I feel that Driver's Ed. should cover some if not all of this stuff. When I suffered through my driving lessons and classes and test, never once was I questioned about what should I do in a spin or any other situation when the driver would lose control of the car. This I feel is a signifcant problem which needs to be corrected.

Do you guy's have an recommendations for driving schools to experience these types of situations first hand?

I have been looking into Skip Barber, but I'm not entirely sure...?

Keep in mind that I live in Massachusets.

Thanks again for this very useful insight.

Frank

And to avoid the flames, yes I do have an S2000. But I am not an irrational driver even though I am unexperienced and rather young. And I do appreciate this car greatly and only have the upmost respect for it while driving it. I have noticed the increase of kids my age in the board and their lack of judgement around the car and the forum. And this is something that I do not do, so please no need for rash judgements.
Autocross!!! It requires no modifications to your car, it's dirt cheap and instruction is generally free,, get all the ride-alongs you can and don't be afraid to ask for help , 99.5 % of the experienced drivers there will be more than willing (actually downright happy) to help you. I wish I had started autocrossing when I was 17.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Legend S,Jan 2 2008, 04:03 PM
^ya...but before i spin i correct
not much to do with vsa
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by s2k08,Jan 6 2008, 02:39 PM
ZDan, you mentioned something about COM, I briefly looked on the website, and it seems to be pretty cool but I'm not 18 yet and it seemed that theres a chance that if you apply to get in they might pass over you, is that correct?

And I'm too sure if I would want to put a Roll Bar in the car.

Thanks for the info on the book though, I do plan on getting it soon.

I will look into the whole AutoX, SCCA, and everything else you guys have mentioned. Maybe, I'll see some of you guys around there?

Thanks for the help,

Frank
Unfortunately, you have to be 18 to run, sorry
The club's insurance apparently requires this age limit.
Personally, I think it sucks.

mikegarrison makes a good point above regarding roll bars for street cars (i.e., not necessarily the best idea). I was much too quick to suggest it as a "worthwhile investment anyway". The potential for an unhelmeted human head crashing into a steel bar somewhat offsets the benefit of having increased protection in a rollover (one reason I compromised with a no-diagonal bar). Not to mention the potential for substandard installation.

So, COM is out for you. Definitely get into autoX or tracking/schooling with another club. The experience will make you a MUCH better driver.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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AutoX was cool the other day... seeing the kids in the karts, i may look into getting my daughter started now..
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Max_Hunter,Jan 7 2008, 03:19 PM
AutoX was cool the other day... seeing the kids in the karts, i may look into getting my daughter started now..
We started our daughter out in karts several years before she was old enough to drive. I'm not sure it was much help when it came to learning to drive a full sized car on the street, but I know it will pay off when she starts autocrossing her Miata next summer. It also paid off the day she accidently got the Lexus in a four wheel slide, because she kept her head and recovered like a pro.

I don't think a kid is ever too young to start learning.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by silentdancer,Jan 7 2008, 10:10 AM
not much to do with vsa
ive learnd to love VSA in wet & icey conditions

off topic....
my thing with VSA was this..... when the VSA is off ( lights up like this <!>) & then the other VSA light comes on when theres a problem with it ( lights up like this VSA ).... so if its off how can the ECU sense the problem !?! my mechanic at the honda dealership said this.....its not really off when you push the button, its more like in a sleep mode so the ECU can still detect problems with sensors & such.... i hated it because i didnt understand this at the time.. Hope that makes sense


mike..
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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Our E320 has the stability control warning light, even though it doesn't have the stability control. It's funny, 'cuase I tell people that it's to tell you when the system would be working if you'd paid for the option.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 06:39 AM
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i spun out by hitting the pedal while making a left on the rain lol. Learned my lesson, but i corrected it before it got worse. I didn't stall though
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