^ya...but before i spin i correct

 

I'll let you drive my boosted AP1 in the cold sometime.

 

Just hit a little black ice. The coefficient of friction between tires and black ice is incredibly low. Just the least little imbalance, and you will spin like a top.

 

12 years of driving here in the midwest & ive never seen this black ice lol its a myth

 

That's because you live in the midwest.

I had a friend who moved out here from Cleveland. Everybody told her to watch out for black ice. Then one day she came into to work and was shocked to report that this "black ice" stuff was real. We all looked at her -- "well, duh...."

What happens in the Seattle area is that we get "radiation fog" and also "advection fog". Because we are next to the ocean, the air is still moist even in the winter. When night falls, the land and air cool down and water precipitates out as fog. It slowly settles onto the ground. This is the same thing as dew or frost. However, it tends to form a completely transparent layer of ice on the pavement. It looks normal, but it's actually icy. "Black ice".

Usually melts off as soon as the sun hits it, but shady spots are treacherous.

 

I gave it too much gas on a strait shifting into 2nd in the rain. first time it happend to me, caught me off guard, overcorrected 3 times then spun a 180...hasn't happened since.

 

Hahaha, so that's what it is. And here I thought I hadn't stalled during a spin in years because the cars were more stall resistant.


J/K. Carburated cars sometimes stall during a spin because of the way a carb works. The engine is often flooded or starved for fuel. In a car with EFI, if the car stalls, it's usually the drivers fault. I can't recall the last time I had a car stall during a spin.

"When in doubt, both feet out. In a spin, both feet in." The problem I have with such old maxums is that they don't always point to the best course of action. If the tail of the S2000 starts to step out and we follow "both feet out" literally, and raise both feet, the sudden reduction in throttle opening is likely to unbalance the car and encourage a much worse slide or spin. There is no substitute for experience, especially when that experience is under the guidance of good instructors.

Legend S, people spin out for lots of reasons. The more of those reasons you're aware of, the less likely you are to have problems yourself. Spins are more common with noobs, but it also happens to experienced and highly capable drivers once in a while. Evolution instructors are not even supposed to slide a students car, but I've had a couple of them do downright nasty spins in my S2000, and my car no longer spins as easily as most early AP1's (unless it's done on purpose). Even people who never normally approach the cars limits in normal driving have been involved in spins, again, for a variety of reasons. If you are serious when you say that you don't get it, maybe you should start a thread asking people to list the things that can contribute to a spin. It's all been covered before, because spins are so common, but if there are still people who don't get it, then we may need to have a thread that gathers it all together in one place.

 

What's a "carb"? I thought that was some kind of fad diet.

 

since you like to get into so much detail about things you start the thread.... lol you took what i said out of context ...it was kind of a joke

 

I spun out on 12/31/07. I took a right turn too fast and shifted to 2nd when it should have been 3rd. Had the car 3 weeks, I was spinning and thinking "How am I going to explain this one?" I hit a curb sideways (facing north in south bound lanes of 49) and screwed up my front alignment and my rear cantor. itshay appensay!!! Just glad your allright and lesson learned.