I discovered the spring spacers a few months after buying the car used. It had ~10,000 miles on it when I discovered it....8,000 when I bought it. Shortly after, I got in an accident and have been trobleshooting slow steering turn response and vague feedback. Honda claims that there is no suspension damage from the accident, however is checking to see if all the bushings are worn from prolonged driving with the spacers.

 

I had spacers in some but not all springs for 2800 miles and just got excuses from AHM who claimed no damage despite the warning tag. I found the four corners of the car were at different levels with the stock suspension components after the spacers were removed. I was told that the 5/8 inch difference was considered normal.. I gave up dealing with Honda on all but the most obvious problems (they won on that one and my crappy gearbox by refusing to deal with me.. this is likely my last Honda BTW). I have since leveled my car with aftermarket pieces but it takes excessive adjustment on one side.. I attribute this to spacer damage but cannot prove anything.

Is everyone else's car level? (bottom of wheel lip to fender arch; side to side not front to back)

 

Please find something else to invest your time and energy in to. Would you like some cheese with that WINE?
Del

 

The spacers will not inherently cause damage to any of the suspension components with the exception of the springs. However this would only occur when the some of the spacers are missing, i.e only certain coils would be able to flex. If you left some of the spacers in for a long period of time (at least a year, probably more like 3 or 4) and then removed them you might experience sagging springs that could keep the car from sitting level. The time that this would take depends on the spring rate of the S.
As for damaging other componenets the spacers would not move the suspension out of its normal cycling range and therefore should not cause undo wear.

There is no basis for a class action law suit.,However, those individuals who had accidents, when the spring spacers had not been removed, would have grounds for a civil suit against the individual dealers.

I agree withthe majority here, this is frivolous and not the correct way to bring this problem to AHM.

 

This one won't make it to discovery.

 

this is dumb.

 

Here's what the warning tag looks like:

 

I do not believe in lawsuits unless all other available areas of recourse have been exhausted. Rather than prepare for a lawsuit, why don't we use the information as a proactive way to provide Honda the information they need to further train problem dealerships. Even a successful lawsuit will not prevent the situation 100% of the time. People make mistakes.

It's just like any other lawsuit. Any damages awarded are spread amongst future customers. The money doesn't magically come from trees. Someone has to pay it. If Honda does, the price of their product is increased. If an insurance company pays, then all policyholders are affected. I was not affected, Honda produced the checklist, some dealerships did not follow it - mine did. Don't penalize my dealership, or my relationship with them, because someone else failed to follow the checklist.

If Honda had problems like the Audi TT that may be design or workmanship problems from the factory and they knowingly did not correct them this would be a problem. Check out http://www.myaudittsucks.com

Honda has taken action to correct the problem by sending out memos to remove the spacers. If dozens of dealerships are having the problem then Honda needs to be aware of it. Making Honda spend money to defend a suit, that will make prices go up and only benefit lawyers, is not the way to do this.

 

keeping in mind, as well, that the dealerships are independently owned and operated. this has been known as something to keep an eye on for a long time. this is not the first time we've seen the magic words 'class action' on this forum, and it won't be the last. as i recall, the others went nowhere as well. you got a problem with spacers? take it up with your dealership - honda did the right thing and informed their dealers that this was the proper procedure. if the dealers chose not to follow it, go after them. i grow tired of people blaming AHM for the greed, laziness, and general non-caring of certain independently owned and operated dealerships.

 

Here is a recent thread about spring spacers.

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?...&threadid=45862