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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 10:24 AM
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Hello,

Are you an s2000 owner that had your spring spacers left in place when you were sold your vehicle?

If so I would like to hear from you.

After pursuing my own complaints against Honda regarding spacers in my vehicle for 12,700 miles I have constantly come up against a brick wall of ignored phone calls and general apathy regarding my situation.

It seems that Honda has no intention of taking responsibility for it's lack of dealer support and education in this situation, and furthermore, has no interest in putting measures in place to ensure that no more s2000's roll out of showrooms with the spacers still in place.

Honda's own specs require that the vehicle not be driven above 12mph with the spacers in place, this in a vehicle that has a top speed of 150mph.

I am gathering the names and information of all s2000 owners that have been subject to this situation.

Please send your details or any questions to me at webmaster@s2ksocal.com

I will need

Your Name
Address (Including Country)
Telephone No
Email address
Location and name of dealer from which you bought your car
No. Of miles covered before removal of spacers
Vehicle ID no.
Year of Vehicle
Color of Vehicle
Vehicle was leased or Bought?

I would also like to hear from any lawyers in our community that would be willing to pursue this situationon the behalf of the effected s2000 owners.

Sincerely
Joel Griffin Dodd
Webmaster - www.s2ksocal.com webmaster@s2ksocal.com
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 10:37 AM
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I think that you will find that this suit is without merit. I am not an attorney. The responsibility for not following directs rests with your dealer. Honda puts the spacers in to protect the car. The dealers are independent business people the buy the cars from AHM and then resell them. Part of the DEALER preparation is that they actually prep the car, by following the directions that are provided to them. If they do not, how can you hold AHM liable? The dealer does not represent AHM, because they are not employed by them. Your beef is with your dealer.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 10:38 AM
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Just curious, what problems have you had with your car that you need to pursue a class action suit?
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 10:40 AM
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Yep, what Dan said...what are the damages you have incurred?

Give it a rest...go spill some coffee on your lap or something if you really have the urge to sue someone.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 10:45 AM
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A good point, but it is still a situation I am willing to pursue, if we can show that multiple dealers are making these mistakes, then we can at least approach Honda with the weight of the situation by producing facts regarding the number of people being put in this position.

The goal is to ensure that it doesn't happen any more, if we can convince Honda that their dealers, who are their Ambassadors, are provding poor service under the Honda brand, then they may see that the situation needs to be addressed at a corporate level, then hopefully they will take up the challenge and pursue this through the distribution chain.

I agree that this is a difficult situation with the channels involved, but if someone doesn't try and do something, then it will just continue.

Joel
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 10:48 AM
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Pursuing a complaint through corporate channels is a far cry from a lawsuit. One I endorse, the other I think is pathetic.

For the record, my car did not have spring spacers in it when I took delivery. 2000 miles later, it still doesn't
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by turbo_pwr
Just curious, what problems have you had with your car that you need to pursue a class action suit?
It is virtually impossible to prove any potential damage to the vehicle, so I doubt anyone would be able to claim any kind of damages. In theory there could be degradation of components and fittings due to excessive vibration and shock - but how are you going to prove that? So maybe the use of the words class action are kinda misleading.

This is about making business's that associate themselves with the Honda brand ensure that they give a minimum standard of service to people who buy a vehicle in good faith.

Joel
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 10:59 AM
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What damages are you going to assert?

No damages, no claim.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 12:50 PM
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I would be interested in finding out how many S2000s that were in accidents or involved in incidents where the owner suddenly lost control of the car... also still had the spring inserts in.

1. Leaving the spring inserts in the car effectively means you are driving the car as if it didn't have springs (or very very stiff springs) (ok... very very very stiff springs).

2. Most people that have reported their car to still have the spring spacers at delivery could not account for all of the spacers installed from the factory. This means that in normal driving or shipping... some of the spacers have fallen out on their own. In a situation where you have say 3 stiff springs (because they still have the spacers in them) and one normal operating spring, instability in driving and especially cornering would occur.

3. If someone were to go to the dealership and ask that their spring spacers be left in... I guaranty that Honda would tell them that their Warranty would be null and void.

If you could get some evidence of S2000's that were wrecked and still had the spring spacers installed... I think you
would have a better case.

Please keep me informed.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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I don't know if this will mess up any cases, but, I saw a tag on the shift lever directing the removal of the spring spacers. That means that Honda has done their best to make sure that the spacers are removed. Any action would then fall upon the selling dealer.
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