It's bragging rights!

IMO, the S2000 powerplant is not necessarily the car's highlight. The chassis and gearbox is what really separates this car from the competition. Of course, the engine's lightweight design contributes to the excellent chassis balance, but that comes with a price.

The F20C and F22C are marvels of engineering, but I'd rather an LS2 under the hood.

 

The qualm I have is why Honda didn't bump displacement as well as leave the 9k redline then there would be no question which power plant is better. But they didn't so the debate goes on. My reason for getting an ap2 is when am I gonna rev to 9k on the street i much rather have the increased power band and torque since my car sees 99.9% street driving. 9k is spectacular though. If i was spending my time on the track I would w/o a doubt get an 03. So i pretty much comes down to why you are buying the car.

 

because they increased displacement by lengthening the stroke. longer stroke = further for the pistons to travel in the same amount of time. The piston velocity of the F22C at 8k rpm is just a hair slower than that of the F20C at 9k. revving the F22C to 9k would give it the fastest piston velocity of any production engine (currently held by the engine in the new RS4.. F20C is 2nd, F22C is somewhere around 4th) by far and create more stress on the already beefud up and strong components. It was a question of durability and cost.

 

If you can go with the ap2. Ya so what the ap1 revs to 9K? The ap2 makes power earlier on, and the best part is the ap1 will never be close to the torque numbers the ap2 will put out. Both cars are equal in strenght, but once you start modding the ap2 is going to show better gains, especially in the torque department.

Looks to me like honda was able to up the power of the s2k, and make the power curve much better with the ap2. Not only that but by lowering the redline they got rid of the power drop common in all ap1's after 8K. Same power with no power drop in the ap2, works for me

 

gawd! you AP1 owners are unbelievable! just give up already!

 

except of course that you only get 2K worth of rpms on the VTEC cam lobes instead of 3K.

 

name a couple people that start to mod their S and do not drop vtec engagement? It's easy to lower vtec point. Besides that it isn't to hard to get the ap2 revving up to 9K or close to it safely.

I love both motors, but have seen results of both off of mods, and races in different situations. The f22 is the better motor for me. To each his own.

 

Yea, those 4 cylinder Accord motors are tanks!



j/k.

 

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I'm an s2000 newbie and not an s2000 owner yet, but I'm trying to make just this decision (AP1 v AP2). From a strictly technical standpoint, I