"Tactical" maneuvers?
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From: R.C.
this isnt the forum, if you want to learn evasive driving techniques you should rent a cheap rear wheel drive car and practice in the dirt first.
your biggest issue is you've got an already twitchy car well beyond the edge of traction and doing it without stalling the car or you've failed.
Also the first part of the line of thought is having a car that your willing to push other cars with the s is not that kind of car its light thin and unstable to a degree your more likely to spin off the road if you try.
your biggest issue is you've got an already twitchy car well beyond the edge of traction and doing it without stalling the car or you've failed.
Also the first part of the line of thought is having a car that your willing to push other cars with the s is not that kind of car its light thin and unstable to a degree your more likely to spin off the road if you try.
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From: The Woodlands TX/Rio P PR
Are you part of the PRESIDENTIAL Secret Service transportation motorcade team? That is the only reason why you would need tactical maneuvers. Why abuse the car for no reason. Not something to do on public streets. U must be seeing to much Hollywood Good Luck
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From: Tustin, CA
Originally Posted by IAmTheRealAsif,Dec 16 2010, 10:22 PM
tactical moves...I jumped out of my s top down and had my girlfriend drive to save my friend because he was on a moving semi truck and the truck driver was shooting him.
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Originally Posted by JLUDE,Dec 16 2010, 07:37 AM
Using your handbrake on dry pavement is just asking for a parking brake component failure. You are better off just breaking the back end loose and spinning it around (if you can do so controlled) to make quick U-turns in a RWD car.
As for J-turns, I assume you are referring the J-turn where you start out in reverse, whip the wheel and slam the brakes to swing the front end around 180 degrees and drive in the opposite direction? Never tried this in the S but my 3rd gen Prelude can pull it off effortlessly.
As for J-turns, I assume you are referring the J-turn where you start out in reverse, whip the wheel and slam the brakes to swing the front end around 180 degrees and drive in the opposite direction? Never tried this in the S but my 3rd gen Prelude can pull it off effortlessly.
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From: San Antonio
Originally Posted by JacFlasche,Dec 17 2010, 09:54 AM
yep, I do this all the time in my everyday driver civic. It is the way that police are taught to do u turns.
That's why the turning wheels on a fork lift are in the rear. Because it can turn around in tight spaces far better than steering with the front wheels.
That's why the turning wheels on a fork lift are in the rear. Because it can turn around in tight spaces far better than steering with the front wheels.
Haha, it doesn't matter which end the turning wheels are on. The reason a forklift is able to turn so tight is because the wheel turn to almost 90 degrees, not because they are on the back. The steering wheels are on the back for a lot of reasons that don't apply to a passenger vehicle.
1. There is a ton of weight on the front wheels that would take a huge toll on steering components
2. When loaded the front wheels are at the center of the vehicle, which would make it very difficult to maneuver.
3. Forklifts spend half of their time or more driving in reverse, because you can't see beyond the load you are carrying.
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From: Austin
When I was in the army I took a high risk personnel protection class since I was doing personal security overseas. In the class we practiced breaking through barricades, pitting, avoiding pits, j turns, 180's (forward and reverse), high speed 3 point turns, and driving vehicles to their limits. (I got a Humvee on 2 wheels 
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For parts of the class we used early 90's <$2000 cars that would be destroyed by the end of the class from the pitting and barricade breaking. Honestly, if done properly, all of these maneuvers are pretty damn easy and shouldnt do any super hard wear on anything other than tires.
Would I recommend it in the S? Not at first. I'd say to grab a beater from a friend who doesnt care and try some stuff in an empty lot. At some point you will need to learn the limits of your car. If you baby your ride and one day find yourself in a situation where you have to drive unexpectedly, then prepare for the unexpected. I personally know exactly how much it takes for my back end to break loose. If it ever happens on accident, it could be a scary situation.
) For parts of the class we used early 90's <$2000 cars that would be destroyed by the end of the class from the pitting and barricade breaking. Honestly, if done properly, all of these maneuvers are pretty damn easy and shouldnt do any super hard wear on anything other than tires.
Would I recommend it in the S? Not at first. I'd say to grab a beater from a friend who doesnt care and try some stuff in an empty lot. At some point you will need to learn the limits of your car. If you baby your ride and one day find yourself in a situation where you have to drive unexpectedly, then prepare for the unexpected. I personally know exactly how much it takes for my back end to break loose. If it ever happens on accident, it could be a scary situation.
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Originally Posted by CBRdream21,Dec 17 2010, 02:41 PM
Cause everyone that has a viper in their garage and enough money to buy every S2k on this board daily drives a civic, and has insider info on police training.
Haha, it doesn't matter which end the turning wheels are on. The reason a forklift is able to turn so tight is because the wheel turn to almost 90 degrees, not because they are on the back. The steering wheels are on the back for a lot of reasons that don't apply to a passenger vehicle.
1. There is a ton of weight on the front wheels that would take a huge toll on steering components
2. When loaded the front wheels are at the center of the vehicle, which would make it very difficult to maneuver.
3. Forklifts spend half of their time or more driving in reverse, because you can't see beyond the load you are carrying.
Haha, it doesn't matter which end the turning wheels are on. The reason a forklift is able to turn so tight is because the wheel turn to almost 90 degrees, not because they are on the back. The steering wheels are on the back for a lot of reasons that don't apply to a passenger vehicle.
1. There is a ton of weight on the front wheels that would take a huge toll on steering components
2. When loaded the front wheels are at the center of the vehicle, which would make it very difficult to maneuver.
3. Forklifts spend half of their time or more driving in reverse, because you can't see beyond the load you are carrying.
also, having the rear wheels steer in a passenger car would be a safety issue since your back end would kick out into the adjacent lane when turning. or you'd just block the entire street if its a 2 lane road. sounds pretty smart.
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Originally Posted by cpl_allen,Dec 17 2010, 03:53 PM
When I was in the army I took a high risk personnel protection class since I was doing personal security overseas. In the class we practiced breaking through barricades, pitting, avoiding pits, j turns, 180's (forward and reverse), high speed 3 point turns, and driving vehicles to their limits. (I got a Humvee on 2 wheels )
For parts of the class we used early 90's <$2000 cars that would be destroyed by the end of the class from the pitting and barricade breaking. Honestly, if done properly, all of these maneuvers are pretty damn easy and shouldnt do any super hard wear on anything other than tires.
Would I recommend it in the S? Not at first. I'd say to grab a beater from a friend who doesnt care and try some stuff in an empty lot. At some point you will need to learn the limits of your car. If you baby your ride and one day find yourself in a situation where you have to drive unexpectedly, then prepare for the unexpected. I personally know exactly how much it takes for my back end to break loose. If it ever happens on accident, it could be a scary situation.
) For parts of the class we used early 90's <$2000 cars that would be destroyed by the end of the class from the pitting and barricade breaking. Honestly, if done properly, all of these maneuvers are pretty damn easy and shouldnt do any super hard wear on anything other than tires.
Would I recommend it in the S? Not at first. I'd say to grab a beater from a friend who doesnt care and try some stuff in an empty lot. At some point you will need to learn the limits of your car. If you baby your ride and one day find yourself in a situation where you have to drive unexpectedly, then prepare for the unexpected. I personally know exactly how much it takes for my back end to break loose. If it ever happens on accident, it could be a scary situation.
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i have done J-turns in a police cruiser before. i was on a ride-a-long and it was a slow night (graveyard shift).
i wouldnt recomend it in the S. when i was doing it in the squad car, the guy told me to try and break the car without actually breaking it. because when in an actual emergency situation when it's needed, you don't have time to worry about the cars condition. you just gotta get the F* to safety.
i wouldnt recomend it in the S. when i was doing it in the squad car, the guy told me to try and break the car without actually breaking it. because when in an actual emergency situation when it's needed, you don't have time to worry about the cars condition. you just gotta get the F* to safety.
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