Too many people think that innate ability is the most important thing.

It's LEARNING, whether it's formal or not... and whether you realize it or not.

Innate ability without training is worthless... take an identical twin at birth and lock him up in a closet for 15 years... I guarantee he'll never be a pro athlete no matter his "innate" talent.

Most of the time it's just people who didn't realize they picked up good training along the way.

 

IMO 85% of S2000 owner do not know what this car can actually do....and if you never crash or even spin-out of control once, you have no clue till you Fxxk up. By the way I just turn 21 and had my S since 19... wish i didn't have to paid for my mistakes ... hell, i did had a lot of fun, like dude said earlier "you only live once". If i didn't have to worry about insurance, i'll be having an Vortec SC under my hood right about now...

 

you said "to have experience with..." do you mean test-drive at the dealership??LOL

 

Hey, just for the record...and no offence to ConeKiller or gomarlins3 if they read this. But today at the AutoX in Atwater...I ran a best time of 1.04.363, both of them, who have much more experenice then me I'm sure ran 1.02.xxx

The difference is, I'm on street tires, Conekiller was on Hoosiers, and Gomarlins3 was on Victoracers, plus they had Comptech Front sways.

Anyway...I was thinking there would be much more than a 2 second difference since they have such better tires then me...and that really makes a HUGE difference in any kind of racing. But I guess it shows that age doesn't mean you can't be a good driver...and also I do have better than 20/20 vision, better hearing then normal, faster reflexes then most...so maybe all that helps me...

I would also say though that I do have experience, my last car I took AutoXing plenty of times, however it was FWD. I have had the S for about 2 months now, and AutoX'd twice...and must say I got considerably better and am really learning how to drive the car at the limits...obviously my AutoX times prove that I'm doing pretty damn good...once I get some Hoosiers I'm sure I'll improve even more.

Ohh...and I did spin a couple times too today... tires just got too hot...and weren't sticking like previous runs, so I had to cool them off

 

didnt read the whole post but thought i would put my 2 cents in. i got my 03 s2k brand new when i was 16 (second car, first a boxster) anyways, all i can say is that it can be an alright everday car (its very harsh in riding, noise, comfort, etc) it also begs to be let open. i autocross my car, and drove it very carefully when i first got it. if this was your very first car all i can say is be careful with that rear end, cause it will bite you in the ass. anyways, do what makes you happy and remember dont do stupid shiet, dont ever try to impress anyone or anything like that cause that is what gets you in trouble

 

Sorry, I meant to say that owning a car can potentially increase your equity.

 

This is really pretty lame. He didnt ask for opinions from the older crowd. Yet I saw alot of "dont get it your too young." If you hypocrite assholes had the oppertunity to get it at that young of an age you wouldnt turn it down for a beater.

I got mine a year ago 3 months after I turned 18. I liked it, I wanted it, I got it. Simple. No one changed my mind or scared me, and dont let them do that to you.

Not to be "mean" but age has nothing to do with skill in anyway, experience is a different thing. Perfect example is the NBA. If your smart with your car you'll be fine.

 

Not that you were directing this at, but I wouldn't say its because he is too young. Just wondering...did you have another car before your S?

I just think that most 16yr. olds (most...I wont say all cause there are exceptions) will all do stupid things in their first year driving...they will push cars to limits and not know how to control it...

I say because I did this, and probably everybody I know did it...its just something new 16 year old drivers do to "impress" or whatever. I don't know why I did stupid things...really I think I was trying to learn how to drive the car at its limits (alone...I was always alone as not to harm anyone else) but the problem was I would push the car places I shouldn't have. Now that I've gotten a little older...done a bunch of stupid things, I keep most of my impressing at the track or on "my hill" which is a private road that I go up and down every day and know better than the back of my hand.

Thats why I say, start of with something that is a little less powerful, not as expensive, and something he wont care about as much WHEN he damages it (not if). Not really a beater...there are a lot of nice S13's out there and that would be a great starter car, or a nice 2nd gen RX7 (FC)...etc, etc...there are tons of nice cars to choose from, might not be as flashy as the S, but honestly, for you first car you don't want something this flashy. 99.9% of teens will get into something that causes damage to their car...it could be minor and not worth reporting or whatever, but they will do something that damages the car...and I bet he'd rather damage the 240 in his first 6 months- year, then sell it and THEN buy the S...after he does the stupid stuff.

Not to wait all the way through college...you don't have to...if you could, just give it 1 year.


Anyway Mike, the decision is yours, do whatever you want, impress your friends now (possibly crash the car and embaress yourself later, or not?) or impress your friends later with the same car...after you know more of what your doing. This is just what I would say from my past 3 years.

 

You mentioned the fact that there are exceptions to the skills of young drivers, yet only went on to focus on how they are so reckless.

This was my first car. That I paid and pay for.

The fact is waiting and spending more money on other cars wont do him much good. Not only that knowin that its a cheaper car and "if it gets wrecked it aint that bad" attitude will only get him into more trouble!! He'll know that it isnt expensive to fix and he'll try to push it more often. With the S he'll have a sense of value and will hopefully be more careful with it.

 

How about this? Take the whole "young drivers suck" thing out of the equation.

More effective street time means being able to learn what other a$$h@!es will do on a street/on-ramp/intersection... and to be in a car that can take a hit from an SUV and keep the driver safe.

Now the Honda might be that car. Just make sure you get some good insurance for it.