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knig is right on about brakes and wheelbase. Also, the 2500 series Chevy has much more substantive suspension, another important consideration. Plus, trailer brakes make towing much safer and easier. Surge brakes work, electrical brakes give superior control, but electric brakes also requires your tow vehicle to have a brake controller.
Here's what I tow with. It's overkill for the car, but my wife uses it to tow horses around.
Also, we have a trailer brake that adds signifant stability to the load. It is probably not something you will find on a regular half ton.
That's exactly the sort of thing I meant about knowing how to trailer. You can install a brake controller or sway control or load-levelling hitch in any tow vehicle. But it's easier to get away without them if you just throw brute force at the problem and use a huge tow vehicle.
Originally Posted by CoralDoc,Sep 2 2007, 08:10 PM
[Crystal Ball] An Explorer was used to tow a trailer over its weight rating. Excessive tongue weight caused a light front end and overweighted rear springs. While towing, the trailer started swaying and the tow vehicle was unable to control the sway. The trailer and load flipped over.[/Crystal Ball]
I thought that there was not ENOUGH load on the tounge which caused the trailer to not "trail" correctly. My friend was driving at the time. I drove about 2/3 of the way through PA from Syracuse when I was getting a little sleepy. And the steering WAS a little light. We pulled off an exit to get some drinks. Once we started out again, were entering an uphill on-ramp. Once we crested the hill and were headed down the other side, he got nervous and started to brake which made the trailer start to wag back and forth. It just got to a point where he was unable to recover, and the trailer detatched from the truck and flipped on its lid.
I drove the whole way when we trailered the S. I admit if the Ford had a towing package or something with stiffer springs or whatever, it would've been alot less light in the nose. But power-wise, it did a fine job pulling the load up mountains and long inclines. I'd do it again if I had to.......just not with a pickup on the trailer. I have to admit though, towing the S went very smooth and was not the least bit scary. I also felt like the braking was adequate as long as you are paying attention to what's going on ahead of you.
With the truck on the trailer, there was too much weight on the tounge so we decided to turn it around (big mistake). That's what caused there to be too little weight on the tounge. Trust me I have learned from this huge mistake. And the cab and bed was full of Christmas decorations, home decor, etc. If it hadn't been for the tarp, there would have been stuff all over the highway for at least 1/4 mile.
Originally Posted by rajun asian,Sep 4 2007, 07:04 AM
Once we crested the hill and were headed down the other side, he got nervous and started to brake which made the trailer start to wag back and forth. It just got to a point where he was unable to recover, and the trailer detatched from the truck and flipped on its lid.
Lack of tongue weight can be an issue. Too much tongue weight can be an issue. But reading between the lines, you didn't have trailer brakes? If so, that's really what hurt you.
Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Sep 4 2007, 09:28 AM
Lack of tongue weight can be an issue. Too much tongue weight can be an issue. But reading between the lines, you didn't have trailer brakes? If so, that's really what hurt you.
Not an S2000 but, a small RWD vehicle. The Capri and 4Runner went from Northern VA to Columbus OH, to Niagra Falls, NY to Hamiliton NY to Northern VA .... No problems. I also used this same set up to pick up my S2000 from NC to northern VA .... I think the problem in the earlier post was not enough tongue weight and too fast a speed .......
Wow, after reading all these posts, I realized there's much more to towing than just barely hauling it.
I didn't make the trip, btw.
I had to work on labor day
Thanks for all the info, guys.
I'll make sure I take all those precautions next time if I ever trailer another vehicle.